From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 6316 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2021 15:12:42 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 9 Apr 2021 15:12:42 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 015439BC31; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 01:12:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA129BB66; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 01:12:25 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="eJ908fiV"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D32239BB66; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 01:12:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qv1-f42.google.com (mail-qv1-f42.google.com [209.85.219.42]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF3AE9BB65 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 01:12:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qv1-f42.google.com with SMTP id h3so2785099qvr.10 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2021 08:12:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=K1GE0rErYW0iuTuFJGkGn1xa53ItrVlV+3DAdc+3NCM=; b=eJ908fiVNMgA7JfTxC0SmE2eVAZjQa3ZUYHIi1BKveW7Ki07Bxg79Q3r3rkdi+XXou KspgCAh0ObYb7Tfu+lqJ2esy6tvQGCHk+P/BMY0p9cVzty1nK9WIMkYsWJt4mfNHVoW4 bLbkqc3HMNYl8V1OlmAUfGehRuJ4z1taf+C2w= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=K1GE0rErYW0iuTuFJGkGn1xa53ItrVlV+3DAdc+3NCM=; b=WTuYc7iB+rnHRtGZSTOFN/x4GWvrkMNIkZ57uAgLaE9fXin6AzCVGIlsV6lPD3olme A83aBO4J8SFR3Src3ncQ4uzrWrV52Sdljz+tO8i+tJ9giAEE2604i7hjaGbYhod7y2iy AeKtI/2YrSKdwUnNm2L/gv5CpbQltbGlZf1FmtZzgm0Zk0Pq3f2TX8/7OqbdJCuUJ218 Tlv8Lnq06W9hslHq4esyxr9rH18DOTtk3UfIw/Xtzq9yKCaSgruuSLrmoq7NmXdFASiC pvyZb+5IC7VMd4hX2Z2luaktOMJ9wEojGDf/oVlsVeXKFjQvw1s5HMfyzTM/n/LS4z5S GCoQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532JTZsKahH2HfYLkKMw9hjh90aumUEFfOH/TcepVGGNxkDbzP1s gPe/GH8oz/jANFJ+XDrXxOKy4m7OicFmmo5+8NpCYg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy9b5CuIxJ3AO7QAelRjvHbs2i6SPyeTdr2EI0c1Igo0XQ5Uygow6SgR6GqHwky8NSMox7XRgQQO6wzaeP0TOA= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:b303:: with SMTP id s3mr14811888qve.22.1617981138744; Fri, 09 Apr 2021 08:12:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0F0B9BFC06289346B88512B91E55670D3012@EXCHANGE> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2021 11:11:52 -0400 Message-ID: To: Tom Lyon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000074c3805bf8b97d9" Subject: Re: [TUHS] SUN (Stanford University Network) was PC Unix X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org" Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000074c3805bf8b97d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 10:10 AM Tom Lyon wrote: > Prior to Sun, Andy had a company called VLSI Technology, Inc. which > licensed SUN designs to 5-10 companies, including Forward Technology and > CoData, IIRC. The SUN IPR effectively belonged to Andy, but I don't know > what kind of legal arrangement he had with Stanford. But the design was > not generally public, and relied on CAD tools only extant on the Stanford > PDP-10. Cisco did start with the SUN-1 processor, though whether they go= t > it from Andy or direct from Stanford is not known to me. When Cisco > started (1984), the Sun-1 was long dead already at Sun. > Bits passing in the night -- this very much is what I remember, expereinced= . =E1=90=A7 --000000000000074c3805bf8b97d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 10:10= AM Tom Lyon <pugs@ieee.org> wro= te:
Prior to Sun, Andy had a company called= VLSI Technology, Inc. which licensed SUN designs to 5-10 companies, includ= ing Forward Technology and CoData, IIRC.=C2=A0 The SUN IPR effectively belo= nged to Andy, but I don't know what kind of legal arrangement=C2=A0he h= ad with Stanford.=C2=A0 =C2=A0But the design was not generally public, and = relied on CAD tools only extant on the Stanford PDP-10.=C2=A0 Cisco did sta= rt with the SUN-1 processor, though whether they got it from Andy or direct= from Stanford is not known to me.=C2=A0 When Cisco started (1984), the Sun= -1 was long dead already at Sun.
Bits pa= ssing in the night -- this very much is what I remember, expereinced.=C2=A0
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