From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 547bd568 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 14:16:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CA5719B9B9; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 00:16:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E639491B; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 00:15:52 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="rSOzrVVg"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 159AE9491B; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 00:15:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wm1-f51.google.com (mail-wm1-f51.google.com [209.85.128.51]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4023394803 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 00:15:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wm1-f51.google.com with SMTP id a15so22329570wmj.5 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 07:15:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Avygoq/QZZWwsnF34A9ARKY7FYzvF22p2Zkyd8bsBB8=; b=rSOzrVVgE+Qkk1qOaVssdMhZv57+0u412u+/oQpD6wPIjYkBVmvi5dvzM8vJeHuCe/ 6cNJz2YY7VZ/utCnuvBDou4gg4T34tNx5/sq62lamvSH5nz5EkajA1h3kDi73rm9cR0U AIZpWEXT0/u67BazpsS2IyjMLTcjZJgYcd8c0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Avygoq/QZZWwsnF34A9ARKY7FYzvF22p2Zkyd8bsBB8=; b=PyVw7oVGtQ0yiiGzmPiiloD9TG0zmVTSYfuPorp2cuNiT64xnOEPAYvcaBYVYbwmPj INyHPvUmcGPKG9Kr+ylbFA6T7RVdE/NlkTuP/3NC58W8obn5aka7sZGqY+wVOAWtmdO6 FiPduEnMKrqeEByY4vrZ5xykWzXuKqxj+YlzbxXfRkG4nHj5lWJppg+moFSaxm5ScUUv /ZSANeAGxPoWNJ24Kvy7gBpSIn9c5eY3vp+sUAgIG712/byX2Hwn/A7j51OF/9QJnzkT DXzrdDs8YR9u/Ehni72fLBw/+SUPSapOxx3PwpGR4NAESTCNcPqtQ9UaVn3pDECDlO7a VRyA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX5b2JwKh15BQDhhRWHCvX1Xp3FQicJyg6p5c++ucVfqpDSRhbz fjDHES3QsX5NR3SeUjJUbLwXGTaElXsC3CcLxpU/uw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzG+lqlOg0DVvKIQSQZH5neK3JgvuABLzideh2sH/8gtWW/Z9Cb8cImiWaT5ilE+wFfw4Vpa0ig/01RSRvGQnc= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:345:: with SMTP id 66mr37556845wmd.8.1563372949732; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 07:15:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8235a090-c48a-4587-8974-23305233bc33@PU1APC01FT026.eop-APC01.prod.protection.outlook.com> <3CFC8159-08DD-4647-8CEF-FE8D196AB3C9@ccc.com> <610F6FCB-F24D-4788-953A-83E0E6456622@ccc.com> <017d16e0-3a7d-b3e7-29b8-8a454d78463f@e-bbes.com> <201907170810.x6H8AELx031974@freefriends.org> In-Reply-To: <201907170810.x6H8AELx031974@freefriends.org> From: Clem Cole Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 10:15:23 -0400 Message-ID: To: Aharon Robbins Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000521627058de1219b" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000521627058de1219b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" RR and the ISC products were different. RR was done in Billerica, MA and ran a variant of SunOS [FWIW: some of the RR guys came to Stellar work on the HW team]. ISC did the 386 port for Intel/ATT/IBM much earlier than that. Later, as was pointed out, Sun ended up with the IP when they bought it from Kodak. On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 4:10 AM wrote: > emanuel stiebler wrote: > > > On 2019-07-11 18:50, A. P. Garcia wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:31 PM Clem cole wrote: > > > > > Did Sun have anything to do with that? I seem to recall something > > > called "Interactive Unix" for the 386, possibly marketed by Sun... > > > > "Interactive Unix" was pretty nice back than. > > Anybody remembers ESIX? Still have the document wall for that ... > > > > Cheers > > > > Sun had a '386 based system in early 90s-ish called the Road Runner. > I never saw it. It ran SunOS 4.x and I think was discontinued by the > time Solaris 2.x came along. > > And, I *do* remember ESIX. We used it for our product at a startup > company I worked for. Initially System V R3 based, IIRC, and then > eventually SVR4; I think we saw an improvement moving to the > BSD fast file system. > > Arnold > --000000000000521627058de1219b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
RR and the ISC products were different.=C2=A0 RR was do= ne in Billerica, MA and ran a variant of SunOS [FWIW: some of the RR guys c= ame to Stellar work on the HW team]. =C2=A0=C2=A0

ISC = did the 386 port for Intel/ATT/IBM much earlier than that. =C2=A0 Later, as= was pointed out, Sun ended up with the IP when they bought it from Kodak.<= /div>

On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 4:10 AM <arnold@skeeve.com> wrote:
emanuel stieb= ler <emu@e-bbes.com<= /a>> wrote:

> On 2019-07-11 18:50, A. P. Garcia wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:31 PM Clem cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
>
> > Did Sun have anything to do with that? I seem to recall something=
> > called "Interactive Unix" for the 386, possibly markete= d by Sun...
>
> "Interactive Unix" was pretty nice back than.
> Anybody remembers ESIX? Still have the document wall for that ...
>
> Cheers
>

Sun had a '386 based system in early 90s-ish called the Road Runner. I never saw it. It ran SunOS 4.x and I think was discontinued by the
time Solaris 2.x came along.

And, I *do* remember ESIX. We used it for our product at a startup
company I worked for. Initially System V R3 based, IIRC, and then
eventually SVR4; I think we saw an improvement moving to the
BSD fast file system.

Arnold
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