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From: clemc@ccc.com (Clem Cole)
Subject: [TUHS] Questions regarding early Unix contributors
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 10:08:01 -0400	[thread overview]
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On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:27 AM, <arnold at skeeve.com> wrote:

> I think the Berkeley guys had an underground
> pipeline to Bell labs and some stuff got out that way. :-)
>

​It was not underground at all.    Tools packaged in BSD came from all over
the community.   style and diction were released into the wild by
themselves before the were packaged into an AT&T USG UNIX or Research UNIX
release.  It got them personally directly and had them installed at
Tektronix soon after first publishing and a talk about them at USENIX (IIRC
that was the Boulder conference in the "Black Hole" movie theatre.

Since I had a minor stake in it (as my first C program) fsck is another
good example of the path to UCB .  Ted started the predecessor program
​when he was at UMich (with Bill Joy).   He did his OYOC year and later a
full PhD at CMU.   He was one of my lab partners in his OYOC year.   fsck
was a we know it now was done during that time ( and I helped him a bit).
He was bring the sources back and forth from Summit to CMU (at the time in
an RK05 or sometimes a bootable DOS tape image of one - I may still have
one of these).    I believe he gave a copy of the sources very early to wnj
-- which is how it ended up in 4.1BSD.  I don't think it was in the
original 3.0 or 4.0 packages as it was not in V5, V6 or V7 either.  I
believe it was released in PWB 2.0 - not sure and Minnie does not seem to
have them.

I'm pretty the SCCS and cpio sources came through one of the PWB releases
(1 or 2)  that UCB got from AT&T.

​Clem​
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-24 14:08 Clem Cole [this message]
2015-09-24 15:20 ` Mary Ann Horton
2015-09-24 17:08   ` Jeremy C. Reed
2015-09-24 17:28   ` Clem Cole
2015-09-26  2:37     ` Dave Horsfall
2015-09-26 23:22       ` Clement T. Cole
2015-09-27  6:52     ` Armando Stettner
2015-09-27 17:31       ` Clem Cole
2015-09-28 14:59       ` Dave Horsfall
2015-09-28 16:55         ` scj
2015-09-28 23:23           ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2015-10-01  2:09             ` Dave Horsfall
2015-10-01  3:52               ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2015-10-01  4:51                 ` Dave Horsfall
2015-09-29  6:57           ` arnold
2015-09-24 19:04 ` Jeremy C. Reed
2015-09-24 20:13   ` Clem Cole
2015-09-24 20:16     ` Clem Cole
2015-09-25  8:04   ` Diomidis Spinellis
2015-09-25 12:04   ` Clem Cole
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-10-07 13:26 Nelson H. F. Beebe
2015-10-02 18:00 Nelson H. F. Beebe
2015-10-01 16:37 Norman Wilson
2015-10-01 18:57 ` Dave Horsfall
2015-09-29  8:07 Hellwig Geisse
2015-09-29 15:35 ` scj
2015-10-01 18:00   ` Aharon Robbins
2015-09-25  2:14 Doug McIlroy
2015-09-24 17:12 Norman Wilson
2015-09-24 20:07 ` scj
2015-09-24 13:56 Noel Chiappa
2015-09-24 14:38 ` Lawrence Stewart
2015-09-24  9:27 Diomidis Spinellis
2015-09-24  9:52 ` Warren Toomey
2015-09-24 12:59 ` Clem Cole
2015-09-24 13:27 ` arnold
2015-09-24 16:12 ` John Cowan
2015-09-24 17:58 ` Jeremy C. Reed

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