From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 27244 invoked from network); 2 May 2020 16:05:19 -0000 Received-SPF: pass (minnie.tuhs.org: domain of minnie.tuhs.org designates 45.79.103.53 as permitted sender) receiver=inbox.vuxu.org; client-ip=45.79.103.53 envelope-from= Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 May 2020 16:05:19 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id EC9569C978; Sun, 3 May 2020 02:05:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDEF9C851; Sun, 3 May 2020 02:04:41 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="IS/IuvZK"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4F54C9C853; Sun, 3 May 2020 02:04:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f171.google.com (mail-qt1-f171.google.com [209.85.160.171]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC21A9C851 for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 02:04:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f171.google.com with SMTP id w29so10402169qtv.3 for ; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:04:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=MYbEmmF+FliWAXHqxzA2CqIIagfNjsO9r3ES624wp0w=; b=IS/IuvZKirJ8Hss+hAObFrg/+Dtpn3/ymx/UwbZyqHZ1j+VOLJp95SPgpCuvq13Fm2 GZjss/Mta9SKpmHcsAHbLO28fIQilXTZ0t8j8JawgQHUpsBx1l01B4aOmJRMdrBbM3id IKAVKjbyLKWhD/KNeRXpTx5Fhw3I5wgg478IA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=MYbEmmF+FliWAXHqxzA2CqIIagfNjsO9r3ES624wp0w=; b=r/6GOubwz6U7E8Sm4tsJP4kCjBxZNywItimFDTOlXjjBak38JgTCrkzv6/Mb61k3UL I4xyS7GGHkrAhvPlwkfUCMWh38rQ5zva0Zewa2ZXQBoiunvJ+1hxb/8FBLxu6FNuIClt Su0Fx1hzumda06wrEa1h3fEq8sA4uiXlAvUypJ7bKIOrN67F1ghB/8ZTX2gEvwn0P+Vz aUJkGiw1oZnNhVgy0AtWJpIveU12hMkOMqIVPIqCS9sDG9kvUcM92sYhXw6tPITHW7oo 7yfEO8GO9j54PBGrli8p+IZJYFSEh/gXzGoxlzsu6k3pks3hm0Y931GT+1gHjjxKJ+bW 5Q7w== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pua+lmdML8q25scM30nj5vdcM34On/B59bLjvVQxWUYO0XDjc/Gw l2tIcZdgzslDcuv5v0jg2DsZKLjF8dLrr+aSKbncbw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypK8garfSc7zuAdi9rxhchMXXsRQZWC2zIOQZG9pKx1n94iPXWQQLrKu0SUpBh8qDTlZME7Nw3Mwwy/V9QkoYBg= X-Received: by 2002:aed:233d:: with SMTP id h58mr3893092qtc.4.1588435475622; Sat, 02 May 2020 09:04:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2F4C604D-F01C-4A82-948A-7E77093B48A1@planet.nl> <8CBDD12A-563F-458D-938B-3AF84D936F39@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: <8CBDD12A-563F-458D-938B-3AF84D936F39@planet.nl> From: Clem Cole Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 12:04:09 -0400 Message-ID: To: Paul Ruizendaal Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004601d405a4ac74e5" Subject: Re: [TUHS] SDB debugger X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000004601d405a4ac74e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paul - you are correct that its got a lot of it there and in particular the kernel (which is good). But the /usr directory (and thus /usr/src) is missing. It's not a completely distribution, it's the BBN 4.1 TCP distribution which was a subset. As I said, 4.0 and 4.1 were similar, but different. The trick is find a complete 4.1 distribution tape. On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 5:10 AM Paul Ruizendaal wrote: > > On May 1, 2020, at 11:57 PM, Clem Cole wrote: > > > [Note to Warren, we should put 4.1 in the browsing tree. The kernel is > different enough from 4.0 and does have new utilities, although it was no= t > nearly as different as 4.1c. The reality is until 4.2BSD came out with t= he > networking support, most Vaxen running BSD were 4.1 not 4.0 based. > > > It is already there! The entry named "BBN's TCP/IP Code for the VAX=E2=80= =9D is > 4.1BSD with the BBN TCP stack added. The changes to the kernel are just o= ne > or two dozen lines (all in sys2.c and main.c) bracketed in #ifdef BBNNET > blocks. The actual network stack is in a separate build directory. > > Maybe the entry should be renamed =E2=80=9C4.1BSD with TCP/IP=E2=80=9D to= make this more > clear. > > > --0000000000004601d405a4ac74e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Paul - you are correct that its got a lot of it there a= nd in particular the kernel (which is good).=C2=A0 But the /usr directory (= and thus /usr/src) is missing.=C2=A0 It's not a completely distribution= , it's the BBN 4.1 TCP distribution which was a subset.

As I said, 4.0 and 4.1 were similar, but different.

The trick is find a complete 4.1 distribution tape.

On Sat, May = 2, 2020 at 5:10 AM Paul Ruizendaal <pnr= @planet.nl> wrote:

On May 1, 2020, at 11:57 PM, Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:

[Note to Warren, we should put 4.1 in the browsing tre= e.=C2=A0 The kernel is different enough from 4.0 and does have new utilitie= s, although it was not nearly as different as 4.1c.=C2=A0 The reality is un= til 4.2BSD came out with the networking support, most Vaxen running BSD wer= e 4.1 not 4.0 based.

It is already there! The entry named "BBN's TCP/IP Code for the= VAX=E2=80=9D is 4.1BSD with the BBN TCP stack added. The changes to the ke= rnel are just one or two dozen lines (all in sys2.c and main.c) bracketed i= n #ifdef BBNNET blocks. The actual network stack is in a separate build dir= ectory.

Maybe the entry should be renamed =E2=80= =9C4.1BSD with TCP/IP=E2=80=9D to make this more clear.


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