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From: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
To: Paul Ruizendaal <pnr@planet.nl>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: DG UNIX History
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 17:31:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC20D2N9pd-9JjwMnU9ChU5LL4z8N3PGw7g5Bh8dsqxAsGsU7g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <832D1854-6395-4866-8640-18FAD3BD6ADF@planet.nl>

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On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 5:12 PM Paul Ruizendaal <pnr@planet.nl> wrote:

> Following on from the exchange on TUHS about DG-UX, it would seem to me
> that the (Unix) unified cache was invented at least three times for Unix:
>
Not to quibble too much, but s/cache/memory/  I think is a fairer way of
saying that.


> - John Reiser at AT&T
> - At Sun
> - At DG
>
- At CMU (Mach)

The interesting thing again, is that while they while all of these
implementations seem to have been technologically 'better' - only Mach
lived on from the original developers.  And in the case of Mach, by the
time it was mainstream (macOS) the original implementation had been
replaced a few times - so while the concepts are there, I don't think much
of the Original CMU code is left in XNU/Darwin [or for that matter in the
OSF flavors -- Tru64 rewrote it but it died and the OSF/RI kernel never
went anywhere either].

As I said, the lesson to TUHS -- as much as I'm a techie and I am
interested in the 'proper' way of doing things ... "good enough" is often
what rules.

It's too bad none of the good memory implementations made it into
>>systems<< that lasted.

Clem
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-14 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-14 22:11 Paul Ruizendaal
2022-11-14 22:31 ` Clem Cole [this message]
2022-11-14 23:54   ` Warner Losh
2022-11-15  6:03     ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-11-15 15:11       ` Larry McVoy
2022-11-15 15:48         ` Bakul Shah
2022-11-15 17:47       ` Warner Losh
2022-11-15  1:21   ` Stuff Received
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-11-14 11:44 arnold
2022-11-12 15:54 [TUHS] " Clem Cole
2022-11-12 16:09 ` [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
2022-11-12 16:52 ` arnold
2022-11-12 17:05   ` Larry McVoy
2022-11-12 17:09   ` Miod Vallat
2022-11-12 17:12     ` Warner Losh
2022-11-12 17:39     ` arnold
2022-11-12 17:13   ` David Barto
2022-11-12 17:37   ` Brad Spencer
2022-11-12 18:04   ` Clem Cole
2022-11-12 18:36     ` Larry McVoy
2022-11-12 19:36       ` Clem Cole
2022-11-13  1:56         ` Larry McVoy
2022-11-12 19:16 ` Dave Horsfall
2022-11-12 19:31   ` Clem Cole

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