Arnold -- good memory.

It was in 4BSD (see disk1 of the McKusick disks) but it is not in 3BSD.  I agree with you, it was not in V7  or 32v (but was in later BSD 2.9/10/11 releases). Frankly, I have memories of Ratfor in V7 on the PDP-11 [and used as part of my thesis on the Vax].   IIRC to use ratfor on the 11, you needed the V7addenda that had a bunch of F77 fixes.

I have memories of EFL and reading the doc.  But I have no memories of ever using it - although Hilfinger may have talked about it in the UCB grad comparative languages seminar maybe in 81/82 timeframe (my memory is hazy - I know it was there that Paul was the one that taught me to not hate Ada so much and understand why Ada was like it was).  What I can not place is where I first saw EFL.  My WAG would be UCB.

FWIW:   Stu did a sabbatical at UCB when I was a grad student.   I'm going to guess maybe he brought it with him during that time.

On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 2:16 PM <arnold@skeeve.com> wrote:
Hi.

EFL was definitely a part of BSD Unix.  But I don't see it in the V7
stuff in the TUHS archives.  When did it first appear?  Was it part
of 32V and I should look there?

It is definitely in the V8 and V10 stuff.

Did anyone actually use it?  I have the feeling that ratfor had already
caught on and spread far, and that it met people's needs, and so
EFL didn't really catch on that much, even though it provided more
features on top of Fortran.

Thanks,

Arnold