From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 17ca5b4c for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 20:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C25F89B844; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 06:24:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD7D9B5F6; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 06:24:39 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="Me6IVH/t"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 139099B5F6; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 06:24:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wm1-f44.google.com (mail-wm1-f44.google.com [209.85.128.44]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 362D394742 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 06:24:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wm1-f44.google.com with SMTP id m18so8067161wmc.1 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 13:24:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jAz5KPGkPcku3V70RM/eB0dyXl/mbtdfn0c2ERpK3Jw=; b=Me6IVH/tXyMfT0jPoSC6GSLByqMoQYc7VJWxhE3d7bMs941qDVDJDwzEiJhDJaCS9N K4GBEq5BtMTQ1k8QcSGq4nVHT0O+Fzf4Tem9O3xAF4BTToyMLYJubbDc+pIp/ViC0lv9 NM3G1tYHmloN4S1nJjc6v9JVfq0VnrTDeh2nE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jAz5KPGkPcku3V70RM/eB0dyXl/mbtdfn0c2ERpK3Jw=; b=m0P0T2s+2pXbXHLTNG0JdZiEczbpX42MZgoe+qJfpdMH67r8s+abCJ+Kev2B+n9qFf p7vXjZIMzHajHr9mcZxTgKwilSZZpR7L/5kT0NA/O7IeyR3bXJJsRE3R5juRO6JPynjV 8aSL5coNLr4kbLWEZ5TUDo/4wZ0Md1+QXPd8IlB/syhT2rMnqpG/xIyEDExHKcgZVl3y lP/O3W3kKrH2UvoWxZ3dO/qQCNAURs89qeZzMVmNQcdufTxfdmvPU7YCISlNak+AFcFu 7lqpReH6aUUlRbKKGaD1oA8KqSHk33D9vLgsiF0nPehMzt8hFojqc6of2BbBMRPNHfoJ ocvQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUNZb3PsQW9hKHu9x/PvhzU22IQexwuEuKJ84Ie+/v1f3egI1au RQJ3cL/Icwt5Twgi4WYLudss4HSLufXnGw1dbgV3bg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzCcyIH5HUuHQDfUBmcmjfXh4SQscVzTKsS2TuEY9AFRr9tC+QGjb2aEP7ZWVNNsruE/gnuKxT1EmNt4lkxIWs= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:9cc6:: with SMTP id f189mr302017wme.80.1570739074766; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 13:24:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1570559927.29337.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> <2e6e1005-3bbf-5dcc-3fcc-099864c752dc@kilonet.net> <8088e5bd-3530-d3e1-8066-db6ea9389dea@kilonet.net> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:24:08 -0400 Message-ID: To: Rob Pike Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000962b94059494305f" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Recovered /etc/passwd files X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000962b94059494305f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 4:00 PM Rob Pike wrote: > Interesting though it is, though, I find this hacking distasteful. It was > distasteful back when, and it still is. The attitudes around hackery have > changed; the position nowadays seems to be that the bad guys are doing it > so the good guys should be rewarded for doing it first. That's disingenuous > at best, and dangerous at worst. > Amen --000000000000962b94059494305f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 4:00 = PM Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
Interesting though i= t is, though, I find this hacking distasteful. It was distasteful back when= , and it still is. The attitudes around hackery have changed; the position = nowadays seems to be that the bad guys are doing it so the good guys should= be rewarded for doing it first. That's disingenuous at best, and dange= rous at worst.
Amen
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