[TUHS] Re: ANSI (C) vs IEEE (POSIX) Standards Body Selection

[Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>]

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Boy, I hate people rewriting history. As someone who lived it, it is just
not the case. I do not doubt that rms will try to take credit, but I think
a few of us there should send notes to Open Group.


FYI: Jim Issak was a marketing guy from Charles River Data Systems, which
is abbreviated C-R-D-S, and the firm always spelled out the letters. But
the rest of us pronounced it CRuDS—adding an "u" and pronouncing it—which I
was referred to in my first email.

When the P1003 committee was established, Jim was aware of the naming
issue, particularly after the CRDS experience.  There was a great argument
in one of the early meetings about whether it should just be a "*Portable
Operating System*" as opposed to a "*Portable Operating System Interface*."
The concern was that we were starting with the System Call API or interface
[which we had inherited from /usr/group) but planned from the beginning
(even in /usr/group days) to be more than the system call API. As I said,
we started with the System API as that would be hard enough to find common
ground -- remember DEC, in particular, was pushing for VMS-like stuff (case
folding in file names).  As you can see, we agree to use an add interface.


Hal's comment about it being called IEEEIX is strange. I do not remember it
ever being called that, and as an editor, I can say that I have no memories
of using that term. Could someone at IEEE in NYC try to call it the same? I
did not hear it or remember any document that used it, so I do not know
what he is talking about. It was not something I generated, and to have
done that would have taken edits.

I wonder if Open Group has the full SCCS files.  I kept it in SCCS
originally and generated some of the documentation Jim needed for IEEE with
SCCS commands.
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On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 10:29 AM Andy Kosela <akosela@andykosela.com> wrote:

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> On Thursday, June 27, 2024, Chet Ramey via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
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>> On 6/26/24 8:44 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
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>>> rms had nothing to do with the name posix.  I have no idea where that
>>> comment came from.
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>> http://www.opengroup.org/austin/papers/posix_faq.html
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> Richard confirms it on his own website, too.
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>  https://www.stallman.org/articles/posix.html
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> --Andy
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