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From: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
To: Norman Wilson <norman@oclsc.org>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] head/sed/tail (was The Unix shell: a 50-year view)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 15:27:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC20D2NPMovqkKLahRKopt5y4mPQrmpNi__RrjtRw6cowmwszQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1626375671.1426.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org>

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The 'second' C compiler was a PDP-10 and Honeywell (36-bit) target Alan
Synder did for his MIT Thesis.
It was originally targeted to ITS for the PDP-10, but it ran on Tops-20
also.

My >>memory<< is he used a 7-bit Character, ala SAIL, with 5 chars stored
in a word with a bit leftover.

You can check it out:  https://github.com/PDP-10/Snyder-C-compiler

I believe that C compiler Nelson is talking about I believe is actually
Synder's that Jay either ported from ITS  or WAITS.

We had some form of the Synder compiler on the PDP-10's at CMU in the late
1970s.
It was either Mike Accetta or Fil Aleva that wrote a program to read PDP-10
backup tapes, that I updated to deal with TOPS-20/TENEX 'dumper' format
which was similar/only different.
ᐧ

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 3:03 PM Norman Wilson <norman@oclsc.org> wrote:

> Nelson H. F. Beebe:
>
>   P.S. Jay was the first to get Steve Johnson's Portable C Compiler,
>   pcc, to run on the 36-bit PDP-10, and once we had pcc, we began the
>   move from writing utilities in Pascal and PDP-10 assembly language to
>   doing them in C.
>
> ======
>
> How did that C implementation handle ASCII text on the DEC-10?
> Were it a from-scratch UNIX port it might make sense to store
> four eight- or nine-bit bytes to a word, but if (as I sense it
> was) it was C running on TOPS-10 or TOPS-20, it would have had
> to work comfortably with DEC's convention of five 7-bit characters
> (plus a spare bit used by some programs as a flag).
>
> Norman Wilson
> Toronto ON
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-15 19:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-15 19:01 Norman Wilson
2021-07-15 19:27 ` Clem Cole [this message]
2021-07-15 19:28   ` Clem Cole
2021-07-15 19:34   ` Warner Losh
2021-07-16  7:38     ` arnold
2021-07-16 16:09       ` Warner Losh
2021-07-16  8:05   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2021-07-16 14:19     ` Clem Cole
2021-07-17  0:34       ` Charles Anthony
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-07-18 20:07 Douglas McIlroy
     [not found] <CAKH6PiW58PDPb5HRi12aKE+mT+O8AjETr9R51Db6U3KcEp_KkA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-07-16 14:17 ` Nelson H. F. Beebe
2021-07-16 16:13   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2021-07-16 12:09 Douglas McIlroy
2021-07-16 14:32 ` Bakul Shah
2021-07-15 22:26 Nelson H. F. Beebe
2021-07-15 23:18 ` Jim Davis
2021-07-16  0:02   ` John Floren
2021-07-16  1:02     ` Nelson H. F. Beebe
2021-07-16  8:27     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2021-07-16 15:28       ` John Floren
2021-07-16  0:02 ` Clem Cole
2021-07-16  0:25   ` Nelson H. F. Beebe
2021-07-16  8:50     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2021-07-15 22:00 Douglas McIlroy
2021-07-15 22:12 ` John Cowan
2021-07-15 21:26 Paul Ruizendaal
2021-07-15 16:54 Nelson H. F. Beebe
2021-07-15 15:44 Norman Wilson
2021-07-15  2:38 Douglas McIlroy
2021-07-15  4:19 ` arnold
2021-07-15  4:25   ` Adam Thornton
2021-07-15  7:20   ` Thomas Paulsen
2021-07-15 14:28 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2021-07-15 22:29 ` Bakul Shah

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