From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 22497 invoked from network); 14 May 2023 19:12:06 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 14 May 2023 19:12:06 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460C640CD4; Mon, 15 May 2023 05:12:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ua1-x936.google.com (mail-ua1-x936.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::936]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0077940B88 for ; Mon, 15 May 2023 05:11:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ua1-x936.google.com with SMTP id a1e0cc1a2514c-77d049b9040so54874533241.1 for ; Sun, 14 May 2023 12:11:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; t=1684091511; x=1686683511; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=pODSgHx5zMkkqct+DXH9jf48jm99ulfsyVFxirK0KTY=; b=lmh/N+h130vYsgVRruyZcCN2Ws8+ARmV0YFYzjhT814AHd8eoNBRD9//RQkwgbpef+ AOhPNy/uhzEh34SWvOawpZB/psbCNi3eLFO2CWNInD9OzN14gKaLKTxPWU72mBAnnLKS cxa5Jw3G6pOpWtStenVVZZ+8Vo92GIGttTdpU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1684091511; x=1686683511; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=pODSgHx5zMkkqct+DXH9jf48jm99ulfsyVFxirK0KTY=; b=Yt79RO1Vi79aTNfPhKTpRz3nP+k0Acu81KBDRtUH64TR+9ZAc185Oe18bvzPoo8Not 2D5Y0mbEOBBwgjvE+aDbQ+4s5WZTg5XX8SaiwOrr3JGjJXq85lMAumJQA9vzdTXNPXBM L/gFRyQrj9oM242yAOrh6qun75oK1DdyJSU/vpZvqYgKQvOAjFWL75OWJUYnC8dfEBLz lXkcbLg+HSZo75Wx8Vp/jrxzTZG29CuGJ0PLTJRkBopu016/AbSezH4Isv171kCyiU2L hI8KlxSLj9QUZKr4sivFM+LNa+Y60VKtmKUlwNolnQiKshXLdDmTl6IsB1GwyQj+o2Eo TYHg== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDwVSzu8EflTbbEH2noa8eRWbsUXuB7nFTdjBOUZg3gmozsxL8GO Vj1W/6MOdqTFP/3LYtL3aFM0SOm0rGxTK4sgsfAYrxhUtQeNyWeveK8X8Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ4EgevATx14HApIEUSp9sMs+vlAkqweX9GPae3HqWo1OEGPZbXq/+hqiDv2YcN2BKahkXfvhLGhB6sv8153GiE= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:dec4:0:b0:446:b3d7:5fee with SMTP id v187-20020a1fdec4000000b00446b3d75feemr12566380vkg.0.1684091511591; Sun, 14 May 2023 12:11:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 15:11:25 -0400 Message-ID: To: segaloco Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000516f3405fbac1c53" Message-ID-Hash: DNL33R4ISQESH2GGPXEEGYJ7PYMR5REY X-Message-ID-Hash: DNL33R4ISQESH2GGPXEEGYJ7PYMR5REY X-MailFrom: clemc@ccc.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Berkeley Font Catalog List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000516f3405fbac1c53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 2:17=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS w= rote: > Hello, I've just today secured purchase of an original 4BSD manual and > papers set and a copy of what I believe is the V6 papers set as well. Of > note amongst the tabs I could read from the pictures of the Berkeley bind= er > was a section of fonts that I don't think I've seen before named the > Berkeley Font Catalog. I did a bit of searching around and didn't find > anything matching that on first inspection re: scanned and source-availab= le > BSD doc collections. Anyone got the scoop on this? > Sure The Berkeley Font Catalog was a collection of 200 bpi fonts that could be used with vcat - the virtual CAT/4 typesetter and old tools like some of the original EE cad editors like Ken Keller's and another from Tom Ferrin at UCSF. The bulk of them was a copy of the Hershey Fonts [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hershey_fonts] and a number of fonts specialty fonts, such as a set for typing chess, that had been developed originally for the XGP at CMU, MIT, and Stanford. Between the 3 ARPAnet sites, there was a lot of mixing and matching. Note: I should have a Xerox copy of them from one of the UCB docs in my files. They are on a BSD tape, I would look in the contributed area, but I don't remember. There is likely troff input to print the catalog (using vcat), but again I am trying to remember where any of that was in the distribution kits. FWIW: a few months back, Rob has corrected the history that the original vcat(1) was Canadian in origin. I thought that Ferrin had his hand in an early version that came to UCB (This is likely an example of the side comment sometimes used, that joy peed on it to make things smell like UCB, as Tom was across the bay). I also thought Tom had collected much of the catalog originally; and while I could be smoking something here -- I seem to remember that he also had some sort of Stanford connection with some of his graphics work [the UCSF and Stanford medical schools - were doing 3D graphics for medical diags at some point]. Tom was a graphics guy, and I know he was mixed up in some of that so it would have made sense for him to be somehow involved. It was not for a few years later, when Barskey showed up at UCB that there was any serious graphics work being done -- before that, only ECAD tools like's Ken and later Oster's. Clem =E1=90=A7 --000000000000516f3405fbac1c53 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 2:17= =E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuh= s.org> wrote:
Hello, I've just today secured purchase of an original 4BSD manual= and papers set and a copy of what I believe is the V6 papers set as well.= =C2=A0 Of note amongst the tabs I could read from the pictures of the Berke= ley binder was a section of fonts that I don't think I've seen befo= re named the Berkeley Font Catalog.=C2=A0 I did a bit of searching around a= nd didn't find anything matching that on first inspection re: scanned a= nd source-available BSD doc collections.=C2=A0 Anyone got the scoop on this= ?
Sure

= The Berkeley Font Catalog was a collection of 200 bpi fonts that could = be used with vcat - the virtual =C2=A0CAT/4 typesetter and old t= ools like some of the original EE cad editors like Ken Keller's and ano= ther from Tom Ferrin at UCSF. The bulk of them was a copy of the Hershey Fo= nts [https://en.wik= ipedia.org/wiki/Hershey_fonts] and a number of fonts specialty fonts, s= uch as a set for typing=C2=A0chess, that had been developed originally for = the XGP at CMU, MIT, and Stanford.=C2=A0 Between the 3 ARPAnet sites, there= was a lot of mixing and matching.=C2=A0 Note: I should have a Xerox copy o= f them from one of the=C2=A0UCB docs in my files. They are on a BSD tape, I= would look in the contributed area, but I don't remember.=C2=A0 =C2=A0= There is likely troff input to print the catalog (using vcat), but again I = am trying to remember where any of that was in the distribution kits.=C2=A0=

FWIW: a few months back, Ro= b has corrected the history that the original vcat(1) was Canadian in origi= n.=C2=A0 I thought that Ferrin had his hand in an early version that=C2=A0c= ame to UCB (This is likely an example of the side comment sometimes=C2=A0us= ed, that joy peed on it to make things smell like UCB, as Tom was across th= e bay).=C2=A0 I also thought Tom had collected much of the catalog original= ly; and while I could be smoking something here -- I seem to remember that = he also had some sort of Stanford connection with some of his graphics work= [the UCSF and Stanford medical schools - were doing 3D graphics for medica= l diags at some point].=C2=A0 =C2=A0Tom was a graphics guy, and I know he= =C2=A0was mixed up in some of that so=C2=A0it would have made sense for him= to be somehow involved.=C2=A0 It was not for a few years later, when Barsk= ey showed up at UCB that there was any serious graphics work being done -- = before that, only ECAD tools like's Ken and later Oster's.=C2=A0

Clem
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