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* Re: [TUHS] How to use V5 UNIX?
@ 2021-05-05 18:08 Noel Chiappa
  2021-05-05 19:02 ` Clem Cole
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Noel Chiappa @ 2021-05-05 18:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs; +Cc: jnc

    > From: Saif Resun

    > I want to use the 5th edition UNIX operating system.
    > ...
    > I want to use it using the SimH emulator but there's no guide about
    > how to install it or use it. 

As they say,'Google is your friend':

  https://gunkies.org/wiki/Running_Unix_v5_in_SIMH

Also, V6 Unix is very similar to V5 (the main difference, IIRC, is that V6
supports so-called 'Split I/D space' on the PDP-11) so anything for V6 will
mostly apply to V5:

  https://gunkies.org/wiki/Running_UNIX_v6_in_SIMH
  https://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_UNIX_v6_(PDP-11)_on_SIMH
  https://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_UNIX_Sixth_Edition_on_Ersatz-11

Have fun!

	Noel

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* Re: [TUHS] How to use V5 UNIX?
  2021-05-05 18:08 [TUHS] How to use V5 UNIX? Noel Chiappa
@ 2021-05-05 19:02 ` Clem Cole
  2021-05-06  1:57   ` [TUHS] Lion's book (was: How to use V5 UNIX?) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Clem Cole @ 2021-05-05 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Noel Chiappa; +Cc: TUHS main list

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The only thing I would add is to find yourself a copy of Lion's book:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lions%27_Commentary_on_UNIX_6th_Edition,_with_Source_Code

You can get a nicely bound version inexpensively from Amazon,
although there are PDFs in the wild too.    Like, others I would suggest
starting with Sixth Edition if you want to follow John.  The biggest
advantage of Seventh besides having more complete toolchains is that the
compiler matches K&R Version 1, so you are likely to have fewer issues, you
will already be giving up ANSI (as described in K&R2).  I started with
Fifth years ago in the early/mid-1970s but quickly got Sixth's so I have
little memory of it.  I have played with it on simh since frankly, the
differences between 5 and 6 are not going to be huge from a learning
standpoint.
ᐧ

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 2:09 PM Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:

>     > From: Saif Resun
>
>     > I want to use the 5th edition UNIX operating system.
>     > ...
>     > I want to use it using the SimH emulator but there's no guide about
>     > how to install it or use it.
>
> As they say,'Google is your friend':
>
>   https://gunkies.org/wiki/Running_Unix_v5_in_SIMH
>
> Also, V6 Unix is very similar to V5 (the main difference, IIRC, is that V6
> supports so-called 'Split I/D space' on the PDP-11) so anything for V6 will
> mostly apply to V5:
>
>   https://gunkies.org/wiki/Running_UNIX_v6_in_SIMH
>   https://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_UNIX_v6_(PDP-11)_on_SIMH
>   https://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_UNIX_Sixth_Edition_on_Ersatz-11
>
> Have fun!
>
>         Noel
>

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* [TUHS] Lion's book (was: How to use V5 UNIX?)
  2021-05-05 19:02 ` Clem Cole
@ 2021-05-06  1:57   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey @ 2021-05-06  1:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Clem Cole; +Cc: TUHS main list, Noel Chiappa

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On Wednesday,  5 May 2021 at 15:02:53 -0400, Clem Cole wrote:
> The only thing I would add is to find yourself a copy of Lion's book:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lions%27_Commentary_on_UNIX_6th_Edition,_with_Source_Code
>
> You can get a nicely bound version inexpensively from Amazon,
> although there are PDFs in the wild too.

It's available at http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/Lions/ This
version dates back to 1994 and is based on wkt's original publication
in 1991.  It contains scan errors, but should be intelligible.

Greg
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* Re: [TUHS] How to use V5 UNIX?
  2021-05-05 11:08 [TUHS] How to use V5 UNIX? Saif Resun
@ 2021-05-05 12:28 ` Angelo Papenhoff
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Angelo Papenhoff @ 2021-05-05 12:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

On 05/05/21, Saif Resun wrote:
> Can someone please help me to use this system?

Not much to do really:
create an ini like this:

	set cpu 11/45
	att rk0 disk0.rk
	d sr 1
	b rk0

and then boot like this:

	% pdp11 boot.ini 

	PDP-11 simulator V4.0-0 Current        git commit id: 938aa58f
	Disabling XQ
	@unix
	mem = 64537

	;login: root
	#

to shutdown, type `sync` a couple of times and stop the simulation with ^E.
Otherwise read the manual and maybe explore v6 or v7 as they're a little
more complete.


aap

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* [TUHS] How to use V5 UNIX?
@ 2021-05-05 11:08 Saif Resun
  2021-05-05 12:28 ` Angelo Papenhoff
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Saif Resun @ 2021-05-05 11:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

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hello there I'm Resun, a teenaged programmer and I love C and UNIX.

I want to use the 5th edition UNIX operating system. From here Index of /Archive/Distributions/Research/Dennis_v5 (tuhs.org)<https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/Research/Dennis_v5/> I've got a compressed file of the 5th edition UNIX. I want to use it using the SimH emulator but there's no guide about how to install it or use it. I'm using SimH in Windows 10.

Can someone please help me to use this system?
Thanks.

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