From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 11629 invoked from network); 5 May 2021 19:03:53 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 5 May 2021 19:03:53 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B0BA09CA4B; Thu, 6 May 2021 05:03:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1E59C918; Thu, 6 May 2021 05:03:25 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="TcRdAcXl"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 537669C918; Thu, 6 May 2021 05:03:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f182.google.com (mail-qt1-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B8EF94A1A for ; Thu, 6 May 2021 05:03:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f182.google.com with SMTP id j19so2060235qtp.7 for ; Wed, 05 May 2021 12:03:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=5hZJhJH4EsLFBN2W2bUVU4TT9SZ9HR29wtWBW9Z+t7w=; b=TcRdAcXlb2Ea78fVjJeuH//jp1IzFkD5B/he1zhmQuWrv3ScFWVnzAjMAzkOJiUcsP U6WQmfw/OQvsCuWf40zMW5ESz0oJ9y6G+P49UeYfHqUm3g/CA/+ljkBnPsxHZJAsVKxi T2Dwz4YcMF9cDI3Is7po7J6IeGQYAhEHDB+/8= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5hZJhJH4EsLFBN2W2bUVU4TT9SZ9HR29wtWBW9Z+t7w=; b=iL3jMOfwCDqM5XwxlwQTqBD8Dd9gTIxxyGjjrzxuOKp578T9J0UbofMZ8QapBAvTQ3 TzRkrYU7VLCkTrQ7+CqxrusmJ0l4tAfNh8P6IDCy0lFNMWgm5BmwVqNIwrUdhyF1uneS KMNBp4Ui3FiHy3RlJfiE/r8HUAvgScXZZV8njIORrZI461vwUcuzrrO9ud+Xahragplm sQ9qIPO6g+xYaYo2dOLhyPAsZS12wRoquX84KIRnbf9xWz5I/6FGsE+Df1B38CpG54R4 rafULQOFvK1++/4WBRu8i44pJsj7TJ7sQl9ATAwJzlW+Qi0CMgFlQK05jMyxopoE6LCq K0sw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532Sur3qxXiTfatom4RYib72vNCDcn9AgFvyTFxT18OJ9Cqk3WkG KIqtteI3irrC7S18rKI5pixVwVyaZ55IaOw6zKC77g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzBT89vyFGmyi678ABxyFEAJtPzZ0q6mNl9rwhZY8hKkj8JOLHBKJbsR1ij+fB4zfxrd+mi5u3vpFRDJbwLYhA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:1447:: with SMTP id v7mr89161qtx.4.1620241400152; Wed, 05 May 2021 12:03:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210505180823.F21A718C094@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <20210505180823.F21A718C094@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> From: Clem Cole Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 15:02:53 -0400 Message-ID: To: Noel Chiappa Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001b726105c199d92c" Subject: Re: [TUHS] How to use V5 UNIX? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000001b726105c199d92c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The only thing I would add is to find yourself a copy of Lion's book: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lions%27_Commentary_on_UNIX_6th_Edition,_with= _Source_Code You can get a nicely bound version inexpensively from Amazon, although there are PDFs in the wild too. Like, others I would suggest starting with Sixth Edition if you want to follow John. The biggest advantage of Seventh besides having more complete toolchains is that the compiler matches K&R Version 1, so you are likely to have fewer issues, you will already be giving up ANSI (as described in K&R2). I started with Fifth years ago in the early/mid-1970s but quickly got Sixth's so I have little memory of it. I have played with it on simh since frankly, the differences between 5 and 6 are not going to be huge from a learning standpoint. =E1=90=A7 On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 2:09 PM Noel Chiappa wrote= : > > From: Saif Resun > > > I want to use the 5th edition UNIX operating system. > > ... > > I want to use it using the SimH emulator but there's no guide about > > how to install it or use it. > > As they say,'Google is your friend': > > https://gunkies.org/wiki/Running_Unix_v5_in_SIMH > > Also, V6 Unix is very similar to V5 (the main difference, IIRC, is that V= 6 > supports so-called 'Split I/D space' on the PDP-11) so anything for V6 wi= ll > mostly apply to V5: > > https://gunkies.org/wiki/Running_UNIX_v6_in_SIMH > https://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_UNIX_v6_(PDP-11)_on_SIMH > https://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_UNIX_Sixth_Edition_on_Ersatz-11 > > Have fun! > > Noel > --0000000000001b726105c199d92c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The only thing I would add is to find yourself=C2=A0a c= opy of Lion's book:=C2=A0https://en.wikipedia.= org/wiki/Lions%27_Commentary_on_UNIX_6th_Edition,_with_Source_Code

You can get a nicely bound version inexpensively from Amaz= on, although=C2=A0there are PDFs in the wild too.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Like, others= I would suggest starting with Sixth Edition if you want to follow John.=C2= =A0 The biggest advantage=C2=A0of Seventh=C2=A0besides having more complete= toolchains is that the compiler matches K&R Version 1, so you are like= ly to have fewer issues, you will already be giving up ANSI (as described i= n K&R2).=C2=A0 I started with Fifth years ago in the early/mid-1970s bu= t quickly got Sixth's so I have little memory of it.=C2=A0 I have playe= d with it on simh since frankly, the differences between 5 and 6 are not go= ing to be huge from a learning standpoint.
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On= Wed, May 5, 2021 at 2:09 PM Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > From: Saif Resun
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > I want to use the 5th edition UNIX operating system.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > ...
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > I want to use it using the SimH emulator but there's= no guide about
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > how to install it or use it.

As they say,'Google is your friend':

=C2=A0 https://gunkies.org/wiki/Running_Unix_v5_in_S= IMH

Also, V6 Unix is very similar to V5 (the main difference, IIRC, is that V6<= br> supports so-called 'Split I/D space' on the PDP-11) so anything for= V6 will
mostly apply to V5:

=C2=A0 https://gunkies.org/wiki/Running_UNIX_v6_in_S= IMH
=C2=A0 https://gunkies.org/wiki/Installi= ng_UNIX_v6_(PDP-11)_on_SIMH
=C2=A0 https://gunkies.org/wiki/I= nstalling_UNIX_Sixth_Edition_on_Ersatz-11

Have fun!

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Noel
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