From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id a546a24d for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 14:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 608D094FC2; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:39:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF7994FBA; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:38:46 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="JkBMM7vI"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id ED77994FB8; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:38:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wr1-f44.google.com (mail-wr1-f44.google.com [209.85.221.44]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E681694FB7 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:38:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wr1-f44.google.com with SMTP id c14so11326246wrr.0 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 06:38:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=SQXQam3eLakCA6BkW15msw+Vp3wDGvztbIpk9jITFLc=; b=JkBMM7vIPQtrLV5HsGUyp+9/68ycuQchBsn+T+eDJJcZqgCtp7e8pRBNlPLXPeZYef K8++AOlEx7GBmmCX3mooMbrpU6X0k2CcEMm6e5lV0rFwF8Ipj3PoE2Vozrbtdl1OL3oo hetYCLJ40PipHVZE9TDzmExaKh1Wqu1YXpERU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=SQXQam3eLakCA6BkW15msw+Vp3wDGvztbIpk9jITFLc=; b=iuol0FG1cRkzTCyWWlefMHm3PBqw5aXXcXKpaYrV5tB8wd4h2XnFbr6nrK+Dt2p04q ML8FUS0xHHwd1oDg3t/g6jWjMD+BINRNvuO4gkUnWE1VN59p3hJxEIViqU50KxnplzDn hfcIltTwWA4RhjGT5X6onvRSNQTfBuRQ7lMYVmTKTJzlZI094MrEnw9fv4f0s/QW8Eck ANsm4gmROxgOdEa01vaHjNjqbkFSZlu5rdiSYeWIg2n+UGPVYoyKmpLGYDEnVQQ/DDZZ 4nOE1tjK6+MYD1u/rDoZpXMg7IdmdrtVtm2Jf7Gq8V0M6lxlD5c+8b4Py2iELzRPMMG4 QPYg== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukeUAB+3v3goDQ/06IuXViReODejhOHIW+fDnQTmxl9ReCgxHAId qVVoxF+4Dml8Vxx1D1PMDnVQplf6xka8ywsv3hVQ1g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN6KEWBU/cPKVxnYem3Xc4gr77Pr/71qqWPxR1vHq9gPD11uduEOAgRXBnnBNBT4oZ6FvtFh+jzJrmyjpHJ52mc= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:63c3:: with SMTP id c3mr12145436wrw.215.1547735921193; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 06:38:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <921E58F1-1631-4390-8CCD-52EE0238B241@planet.nl> <31335EFC-09CE-4286-9358-87B5F74D2004@planet.nl> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 09:38:14 -0500 Message-ID: To: "Jeremy C. Reed" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ca01fb057fa85980" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old Unix source code DVD [was: V6 networking & alarm syscall] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org list" , Paul Ruizendaal Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000ca01fb057fa85980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeremy, A few of us are trying to unravel some of the mysteries of what is what. The original 4 CD's has an early version of the TCP stack from BBN (although the provenance of same is not exactly clear). That is the code that Warren has in the archives. Since he originally published the CD Kirk obtained some other things (as Paul mentioned). Paul and I are both trying to sift through what Kirk has, although again provenance is unfortunately not as clean as we would like. The bad news is that Rob Gurwitz (was the original author of the BBN IP/TCP stack) does not seem to have tapes himself and has pointed Paul and I at Kirk's archives for now. The question is can we figure out what it what. Paul has done a great job of looking at some old DARPA qtr reports that BBN sent to ARPA that helps to put some structure around some of this. Then using dates from there and some of the files, plus the memory of some of the protagonists involved, we can try to sort it out. We'll let you all know what we learn ASAP. FWIW: Folks have been helping Warren get it right in his pages. For instance, his old page on the BBN TCP, had some wording that was easy to misconstrue. That data is being clarified so the reader does not in-advertently rewrite history. We'll continue to do that when we can. I do hope that when the dust settles, we see the historical archives as complete and correct as possible. Clem =E1=90=A7 On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 8:20 AM wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jan 2019, Paul Ruizendaal wrote: > > > I just discovered that Kirk McKusick has made a new DVD that covers a > > much broader set of software than his earlier 4 CD set: > > https://www.mckusick.com/csrg/ > > (see bottom of the page, one but last paragraph). > > > > This new DVD includes the surviving BBN VAX TCP source code; it is not > > on the earlier 4 CD set. > > Is there a list of the DVD's contents? I didn't see any details of this > on the webpage. (I have the four CD-ROM set which does have some of > the BBN code.) > --000000000000ca01fb057fa85980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jeremy,

A few of us are trying to = unravel some of the mysteries of what is what.=C2=A0 =C2=A0The original 4 C= D's has an early version of the TCP stack from BBN (although the proven= ance of same is not exactly clear).=C2=A0 That is the code that Warren has = in the archives.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Since he originally published the CD Kirk obta= ined some other things (as Paul mentioned).=C2=A0 =C2=A0Paul and I are both= trying to sift through what Kirk has, although again provenance is unfortu= nately not as clean as we would like.=C2=A0 The bad news is that Rob Gurwit= z (was the original author of the BBN IP/TCP stack) does not seem to have t= apes himself and has pointed Paul and I at Kirk's archives for now.=C2= =A0 The question is can we figure out what it what.

Pa= ul has done a great job of looking at some old DARPA qtr reports that BBN s= ent to ARPA that helps to=C2=A0put some structure around some of this.=C2= =A0 Then using dates from there and some of the files, plus the memory of s= ome of the protagonists involved, we can try to sort it out.

We'll let you all know what we learn ASAP.=C2=A0 =C2=A0FWIW:=C2= =A0 Folks have been helping Warren get it right in his pages.=C2=A0 =C2=A0F= or instance, his old page on the BBN TCP, had some wording that was easy to= misconstrue.=C2=A0 =C2=A0That data is being clarified so the reader does n= ot in-advertently rewrite history.=C2=A0 =C2=A0We'll continue to do tha= t when we can.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I do hope that when the dust settles, we see the= historical archives as complete and correct as possible.

Clem
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On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 8:20 AM &l= t;reed@reedmedia.net> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 20= 19, Paul Ruizendaal wrote:

> I just discovered that Kirk McKusick has made a new DVD that covers a =
> much broader set of software than his earlier 4 CD set:
> https://www.mckusick.com/csrg/
> (see bottom of the page, one but last paragraph).
>
> This new DVD includes the surviving BBN VAX TCP source code; it is not=
> on the earlier 4 CD set.

Is there a list of the DVD's contents? I didn't see any details of = this
on the webpage. (I have the four CD-ROM set which does have some of
the BBN code.)
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