From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697D22B4FD for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2024 16:49:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0C6426B4; Thu, 18 Jan 2024 01:48:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vk1-xa30.google.com (mail-vk1-xa30.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a30]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9092426B3 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2024 01:48:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vk1-xa30.google.com with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-4b71b86ef81so2205281e0c.2 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2024 07:48:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; t=1705506532; x=1706111332; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=e1vuDA5Y+n92ZSjiFII3zGF+RYc00MbDN5Ml2W6cs8s=; b=GMFYjtaP+V84sbx6y8NkioDZyF72aEOEHqV9ehp8UNFpqAbafNmCDpPhXQDMOcL62w 6xTku62jhfiP8Sjo9dO47gTYbYxZFgc+1S1j9fg6/ZLbAPQ1jSTXtcaa47cV1MKn8E3u q2h4GfmAxdqHaMoa22/wROlnuPfdk/lUbOMfA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1705506532; x=1706111332; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=e1vuDA5Y+n92ZSjiFII3zGF+RYc00MbDN5Ml2W6cs8s=; b=ThOS0nx3ViNGrxc4aypj0SEsIiKXVOsLh4kgCJVLPDyiaEGO+t/3nwmQsLcVcy8vtY iXXb1PRDU/1/e8gUx7O2YtGP3VY/0mLb5exFEDt/BuS4KNh1myOWXjtvPfPQDEt+L7L/ 1O7R85RkAgqL8/gbKpA77B5CjtekeRIaxsv+WHpIUrIedzznr2YqJraKuQIwpDfKmxdG fLSCrMx30ebnQzER16LVk97q5ghAN3SmqcE7t1bWfOExwYBqcn8o2rraqROHbbJApfVx x2eQIBdd1wi7PvBXGVVrv27ABQ3GNUjzWtvNN9DtxjIN6oi+xWEYzOP6Bh9CxSmFqx/p 5Lbw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxeT8JFiYV58rCvn/IsjJp5D3EjZmXdcdRhDoYdhAW15fxoCohA F2e4bkvGGzJbZku25Gx7A4e/fFB+m1dhWNeowUJNIXBanSbh X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEHP5S6SZf8o3FcjgOY5zGT1uJQdQEMPva5oL870Bj1fVRtG5V3A1uKFGJC1SjDifirWKIjqWpXiNt4HpDuokw= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6122:3b81:b0:4b7:3986:de56 with SMTP id fs1-20020a0561223b8100b004b73986de56mr5075507vkb.11.1705506530995; Wed, 17 Jan 2024 07:48:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20240117140821.lqjaa3z3zdp4isns@illithid> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 10:48:38 -0500 Message-ID: To: Brad Spencer Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f14b3e060f262e18" Message-ID-Hash: MGWUO7XBMK2V3NINHUG42B7HQHNXVMY2 X-Message-ID-Hash: MGWUO7XBMK2V3NINHUG42B7HQHNXVMY2 X-MailFrom: clemc@ccc.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: falcon@freecalypso.org, gardnerjohng@gmail.com, groff@gnu.org, tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Original print of V7 manual? / My own version of troff List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000f14b3e060f262e18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Larry wrote it for admin help of his 4.1 BSD vaxen at NASA. (Which was PCC based compiler K&R1 syntax). I do not remember if any one tried to get it running on the 11 because of address space issues. As Brad says you can check all usenet files. Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 9:33=E2=80=AFAM Brad Spencer wrote: > "G. Branden Robinson" writes: > > [snip] > > > (Which isn't to say that one _can't_ write safe code using K&R C; my > > fear is that having to remember all of the things the compiler won't do > > for you would overwhelm the task at hand. Too bad Unix V7 didn't have > > Perl, since this is basically a text transformation problem.) > > > > Regards, > > Branden > > > I may be very much misremembering this, but I think that Perl 3 might > exist for V7. I have very vague memories of bring up V7 in SimH and > noted that a perl binary existed there.... but it might have been 2.x > BSD...(this is actually the most likely) or something else in SimH. All > of the history says Perl 1 was created in late 1987, so V7 certainly > would have been around and I wouldn't be suprised that someone attempted > to port it. I could not find which OS Perl was an initial target for > and I didn't want to grovel though the old Usenet posts. > > > > > > -- > Brad Spencer - brad@anduin.eldar.org - KC8VKS - http://anduin.eldar.org > --000000000000f14b3e060f262e18 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Larry wrote it for admin help of his 4.1 BSD vaxen at NAS= A. =C2=A0 (Which was PCC based compiler K&R1 syntax).=C2=A0 I =C2=A0do = not remember if any one tried to get it running on the 11 because of addres= s space issues.=C2=A0 As Brad says you can check all usenet files. =C2=A0= =C2=A0

Sent = from a handheld expect more typos than usual


On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 9:33=E2=80=AFAM Brad Spencer <brad@anduin.eldar.org> wrote:
"G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gma= il.com> writes:

[snip]

> (Which isn't to say that one _can't_ write safe code using K&a= mp;R C; my
> fear is that having to remember all of the things the compiler won'= ;t do
> for you would overwhelm the task at hand.=C2=A0 Too bad Unix V7 didn&#= 39;t have
> Perl, since this is basically a text transformation problem.)
>
> Regards,
> Branden


I may be very much misremembering this, but I think that Perl 3 might
exist for V7.=C2=A0 I have very vague memories of bring up V7 in SimH and noted that a perl binary existed there.... but it might have been 2.x
BSD...(this is actually the most likely) or something else in SimH.=C2=A0 A= ll
of the history says Perl 1 was created in late 1987, so V7 certainly
would have been around and I wouldn't be suprised that someone attempte= d
to port it.=C2=A0 I could not find which OS Perl was an initial target for<= br> and I didn't want to grovel though the old Usenet posts.





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