From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 2904 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2021 20:53:02 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 27 Apr 2021 20:53:02 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6DB7E9C886; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 06:53:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B80E9C87B; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 06:52:25 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="rg38xnPr"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3F4619C87B; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 06:52:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qv1-f43.google.com (mail-qv1-f43.google.com [209.85.219.43]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E2AA9C87A for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 06:52:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qv1-f43.google.com with SMTP id gv2so20443241qvb.8 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 13:52:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=tR8JCGPf+WQoVbNIuvtBN1eZULYFVjv9VYmNM9wGUO0=; b=rg38xnPrDfg9uIEaYBSFwl06o4+WEOO950PwtSrU+H5ay5w6joFHHvi35As07gDJ3d tm49nBtAI8+1UpV+Y5ObLmGHVuikUQ0Z8eRwla+pTbqOmHDiuJh9vVRVVylcq0bja/34 55wEA0dA9v0r6+VKSzsITZKljrxuwFF6tOXSQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tR8JCGPf+WQoVbNIuvtBN1eZULYFVjv9VYmNM9wGUO0=; b=b23jsDj0VIgx46ik8N7uGxjyq4K0abLQ9E7X2otwYSIgjZx3rA4BM4vH9GdO20KU2b 3yDAJ63wDhre2+BTnDLRwEekgze4wb6jC7kkLwsw6prlxkIk8kbQAW5e17EentvpZNMW w9UVbFAgd6RFy5T7VpLL8XNOUFAV5YMbIeibXzWy6wIJvgAl4+yGKAR/xVqM1+47m3hm jM4Jj1KWgP3D2tymC+t1CVnsZ2UApUX4+QmRX5F/Xj6n1mNdHYhrU8BBgcl/CHLyo+JQ xfwkYa+bEK62LaIneOYk9ez7s0M6mn0XWAhDeZNkDdD2RNeema2GwiOtSTMeFi4c9c0A StuQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5308S7wCnIDqOtqYpuMr1mcvSJf0RjHc0w02mYvixwLDkRUN8hDU ySBrAq5RFpTl9cf4QVAavvJrfdTeAGTrhYShzSiJ7g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyCnFpkTjBiWAWtUA7Env/LBwbw/+KaEREWKTS5Pew4ZWjbdgBz/HpHcC99200KhXBxz0YIl7+m9vEh3rJtucY= X-Received: by 2002:ad4:4109:: with SMTP id i9mr9996289qvp.30.1619556740925; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 13:52:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 16:51:54 -0400 Message-ID: To: Adam Thornton Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003c9ec905c0fa7079" Subject: Re: [TUHS] How to install 4.3BSD Quasijarus on VAXStation 4000 VLC? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000003c9ec905c0fa7079 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Might I would suggest a slightly different path. Install Quasijarus on a more traditional vax processor with RH style disks [RMxx/RPxx] on the simh. Then add a virtual RZ SCSI disk to the simh system [although you might not even need to do that - as simh just sees the disk as a linear file of blocks without any geometry]. The trick is to make sure the virtual disk is set up so that you have a working system/booting system on the virtual disk when changing the processor type to match the VAXstation. Then just DD the image to a real SCSI drive and move it to the VAXstation. On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 3:51 PM Adam Thornton wrote: > Thanks to Emanuel Steibler, I am now in possession of a VAXStation 4000 > VLC. I've got OpenVMS installed, but, well, the SCSI2SD gives me two more > 2GB disks (the fourth partition is the OpenVMS install CD). > > I'd like to put Quasijarus on it. > > Problem is, the VLC only supports, as far as I know, SCSI devices. I'm > quite happy to install Quasijarus under simhfrom an emulated SCSI tape to > an rz device and then just dd the resulting disk image over to the SD > card...but I can't work out how to do it. > > This (as my simh ini file) works fine for getting to the emulated console: > > set rz0 rzu > att rz0 quas.dsk > set rz4 tz30 > att rz4 quas.tap > boot.cpu > > Problem is, quas.tap doesn't actually work; neither the prepackaged > 4.3BSD-Quasijarus0c.tap nor one I make with mkdisttap.pl and the input > stand/miniroot/etc files. > > I get this: > > adam@m1-wired:~/Documents/src/quasi$ ./vaxstation4000vlc install.ini > > VAXstation 4000-VLC (KA48) simulator V4.0-0 Current git commit id: > 9bf37d3d > /Users/adam/Documents/src/quasi/install.ini-4> att rz4 quas.tap > RZ4: Tape Image 'quas.tap' scanned as SIMH format > /Users/adam/Documents/src/quasi/install.ini-5> boot cpu > Loading boot code from internal ka48a.bin > > > > KA48-A V1.2-32B-V4.0 > 08-00-2B-B2-35-2C > 16MB > > ?? 010 2 LCG 0086 > ?? 001 3 DZ 0032 > ?? 001 4 CACHE 0512 > ?? 001 7 IT 8706 > ?? 001 8 SYS 0128 > ?? 001 9 NI 0024 > > >>> show dev > > VMS/VMB ADDR DEVTYPE NUMBYTES RM/FX WP DEVNAM > REV > ------- ---- ------- -------- ----- -- ------ > --- > ESA0 08-00-2B-B2-35-2C > DKA0 A/0/0 DISK 2.14GB FX RZ23 > 0A18 > DKA100 A/1/0 DISK ...... FX RZ23 > 0A18 > DKA200 A/2/0 DISK ...... FX RZ23 > 0A18 > DKA300 A/3/0 DISK ...... FX RZ23 > 0A18 > MKA400 A/4/0 TAPE RM TZK50 > 1.1A > DKA500 A/5/0 DISK ...... FX RZ23 > 0A18 > ..HostID.. A/6 INITR > DKA700 A/7/0 DISK ...... FX RZ23 > 0A18 > > > > >>> boot mka400: > > > -MKA400 > > > ?48 ENDOFFILE > HALT instruction, PC: 00000B15 (MOVL (R11),SP) > > Sooooo.... > > How do I make a bootable SCSI tape image from Quasijarus? Or, > alternatively, how can I create a bootable ISO image from the Quasijarus > installation files (and then either install under simh, or just dd to an SD > partition and boot from there, or even burn to an actual CD and install > from a SCSI CD-ROM drive)? > > Adam > --0000000000003c9ec905c0fa7079 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Might I would suggest a slightly different path.
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Install=C2=A0Quasijarus=C2=A0on a more traditional vax processor with RH = style disks [RMxx/RPxx] on the simh.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Then add a virtual RZ SCSI= disk to the simh system [although you might not even need to do that - as = simh just sees the disk as a linear file of blocks without any geometry].= =C2=A0 The trick is to make=C2=A0sure the virtual disk is set up so that yo= u have a working system/booting system on the virtual disk when changing th= e processor type to match the VAXstation.=C2=A0 Then just DD the image to a= real SCSI drive=C2=A0and move it to the VAXstation.

On Tue, Apr 27, 2= 021 at 3:51 PM Adam Thornton <ath= ornton@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks to Emanuel Steibler, I am now = in possession of a VAXStation 4000 VLC.=C2=A0 I've got OpenVMS installe= d, but, well, the SCSI2SD gives me two more 2GB disks (the fourth partition= is the OpenVMS install CD).

I'd like to put Q= uasijarus on it.

Problem is, the VLC only supports= , as far as I know, SCSI devices.=C2=A0 I'm quite happy to install Quas= ijarus under simhfrom an emulated SCSI tape to an rz device and then just d= d the resulting disk image over to the SD card...but I can't work out h= ow to do it.

This (as my simh ini file) works fine= for getting to the emulated console:

set rz0 rzu
att rz0 quas.ds= k
set rz4 tz30
att rz4 quas.tap
boot.cpu

=
Problem is, quas.tap doesn't actually work; neither the prep= ackaged 4.3BSD-Quasijarus0c.tap nor one I make with mkdisttap.pl and the input stand/miniroot/et= c files.

I get this:

adam@m1-wired:~/Documents/src/quasi$ ./vaxstation4000vlc in= stall.ini

VAXstation 4000-VLC (KA48) simulator V4.0-0 Current =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0git commit id: 9bf37d3d
/Users/adam/Documents/src/q= uasi/install.ini-4> att rz4 quas.tap
RZ4: Tape Image 'quas.tap= 9; scanned as SIMH format
/Users/adam/Documents/src/quasi/install.ini-5&= gt; boot cpu
Loading boot code from internal ka48a.bin



KA= 48-A V1.2-32B-V4.0
08-00-2B-B2-35-2C
16MB

?? 010 =C2=A0 2 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 LCG =C2=A00086
?? 001 =C2=A0 3 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0DZ =C2=A00032
?? 001 =C2=A0 4 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 CACHE =C2=A00512
??= 001 =C2=A0 7 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IT =C2=A08706
?? 001 =C2=A0 8 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 SYS =C2=A00128
?? 001 =C2=A0 9 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0NI =C2=A00024

>>> show dev

=C2=A0 VMS/VMB =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ADDR =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0DEVTYPE =C2=A0 =C2=A0NUMBYTES =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 RM/FX =C2=A0 =C2=A0WP =C2=A0 =C2=A0DEVNAM =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0RE= V
=C2=A0 ------- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0---- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0------- = =C2=A0 =C2=A0-------- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ----- =C2=A0 =C2=A0-- =C2=A0 =C2=A0----= -- =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0---
=C2=A0 ESA0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 08-00= -2B-B2-35-2C
=C2=A0 DKA0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A/0/0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= DISK =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2.14GB =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0FX =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0RZ23 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00A18
=C2= =A0 DKA100 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A/1/0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 DISK =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0...... =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FX =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0RZ23 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00A18
=C2=A0 DKA200 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 A/2/0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 DISK =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0...... =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FX =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0RZ23 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00A18
=C2=A0 DKA300 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A/3/0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 DISK =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0...... =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FX =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0RZ23 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00A18<= br>=C2=A0 MKA400 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A/4/0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 TAPE =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 RM =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0TZK50 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 1.1A
=C2=A0 DK= A500 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A/5/0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 DISK =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0...... =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FX =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= RZ23 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00A18
=C2=A0..HostID.. =C2=A0 =C2=A0A/6 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 INITR
=C2=A0 DKA700 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A/7/0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 DISK =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0...... =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FX = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0RZ23 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00A= 18



>>> boot mka400:


-MKA400


?= 48 ENDOFFILE
HALT instruction, PC: 00000B15 (MOVL (R11),SP)
=

Sooooo....

How do I make a boo= table SCSI tape image from Quasijarus?=C2=A0 Or, alternatively, how can I c= reate a bootable ISO image from the Quasijarus installation files (and then= either install under simh, or just dd to an SD partition and boot from the= re, or even burn to an actual CD and install from a SCSI CD-ROM drive)?
=

Adam
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