From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id ea9faed3 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 21:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C6A289C214; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 07:02:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D6B9C104; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 07:01:52 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="qKBMk8DE"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D3FA79C104; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 07:01:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f171.google.com (mail-qk1-f171.google.com [209.85.222.171]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 391179C102 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 07:01:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f171.google.com with SMTP id x1so1160116qkl.12 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 13:01:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=kMEhbuawyYEDmscyAGxHjNB2ONDKtMCiBeCIRWk5PCo=; b=qKBMk8DEHA16nfWFpQyguXKEjN28yxWlu2ehmecx3DXNlkNzwXg+tc8xrg47Vp3uF8 KYcswkdmB8MA5XKTQuQjtvSguccGp/CRYOWdaxF9s1yE9q9lPByEOlFI5l14PAszwpwY ocnWcZUDzTV16x6E/Itdm3gd8Vq6LmeWsuikU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=kMEhbuawyYEDmscyAGxHjNB2ONDKtMCiBeCIRWk5PCo=; b=ukXsM2hLyS+Z5My1kpFMZQaHuvgtdtf9puRosL1h0+F849F38ZTCIUS6y0aRc/VjIC 6LaAxl6q0GMj4GorZ11mX2NMAhlcE4yjSWslmBIwDp4JMruN3IyGYlgWb67/iiMYUZli i7u2+hH0UrP+qlARhcuDouH3lWzQ1QLKGHxvI238nbumRecWSJxiua3RoaIcSfXOhadC AD+jvgnW162aFWKSW2Quqq/q/qAnDPvBKOwsT8G2VXX3/mFvzbbMiYAoTPWBA0JEH9pV /RAefFaIIRgJx/4B6oAkqcEEJjAH5rCzEpD6iKyeJxa976M6wegNFoY49UsvbjBtdJmD yedQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWHm2SAtDiAUAc28E9NFaDi9ea2PAbllTLFqQxMJziy1VtMiyYH AEr6YKFwQrx5FF9eRSUKkk1z+RynraJ9pClaq0fRclCb7To= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyyGTO8yLcId7mE+SddqZbC6SOphzjlTu9uKCsCT3NoRU5ZXsq92uJTYAxiDOgogHlx/1QkhlZafX49i6lG6Qg= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:6cc:: with SMTP id 12mr12605757qky.307.1579726909105; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 13:01:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 16:01:23 -0500 Message-ID: To: Paul Ruizendaal Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000427c97059cc0d5c6" Subject: Re: [TUHS] "Network Unix" (i.e. Arpanet Unix) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000427c97059cc0d5c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Paul - this is great. Thank you. Clem On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 3:16 PM Paul Ruizendaal wrote: > > Because we can't ask Greg sadly, I think the Holmgren is the last around > that would know definitively and I've personally lost track of him. > > Steve Holmgren and the Arpanet Unix team are still around (at least they > were 3 years ago). I just remembered that I put some of my notes & findings > in a draft wiki that I wanted to develop for TUHS - but I never finished it: > > http://chiselapp.com/user/pnr/repository/TUHS_wiki/wiki?name=early_networking > > The recent find of CSRG report 3 and 4 may be the incentive I needed to > complete my notes about 4.1a, 4.1c and 4.2BSD. However, still looking for > the actual source tape to 4.1a - the closest I have is its derivative in > 2.9BSD (https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=2.9BSD/usr/net) > > > > --000000000000427c97059cc0d5c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Paul - this is great.=C2=A0 Thank you.
Clem

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 3:16 PM Paul Ruizendaal <pnr@planet.nl> wrote:
> Because we can't ask Greg sadly, I think= the Holmgren is the last around that would know definitively and I've = personally lost track of him.

Steve Holmgren and the Arpanet Unix team are still around (at least they we= re 3 years ago). I just remembered that I put some of my notes & findin= gs in a draft wiki that I wanted to develop for TUHS - but I never finished= it:
http://chiselapp.com/= user/pnr/repository/TUHS_wiki/wiki?name=3Dearly_networking

The recent find of CSRG report 3 and 4 may be the incentive I needed to com= plete my notes about 4.1a, 4.1c and 4.2BSD. However, still looking for the = actual source tape to 4.1a - the closest I have is its derivative in 2.9BSD= (https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utre= e.pl?file=3D2.9BSD/usr/net)



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