From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id f9ec0d37 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 14:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 87DF49BF4B; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 00:58:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C80F94791; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 00:58:15 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="FLnx4n/R"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0DD8594791; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 00:58:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wr1-f44.google.com (mail-wr1-f44.google.com [209.85.221.44]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EB839478F for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 00:58:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wr1-f44.google.com with SMTP id h7so38233454wrw.8 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 07:58:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=yNK0kyxLh5THrNliNJPTx/QKlpT5nIKV1MSwZFbbpSw=; b=FLnx4n/RSiH27FRALl6QZMYoZyNMrxsu4dU//KMvPk7WdPiYwwW8Frbq/mpCaOHtE5 JSNmLWeFhVsXSoHi9/flWQskYxHJvg3ZVmARkiZp+u12A+txZ7IycOKDjWM+i8gdW6rQ +t4oMNTSLu9u4l1sJqEfqqchPlXPARUsJxI70= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=yNK0kyxLh5THrNliNJPTx/QKlpT5nIKV1MSwZFbbpSw=; b=GYCg02eK+y/v1hhADd5b+DkxyqfEX59GK/NNBouZZ/ptsfkDbBjYEp4PzWYnu5l2Sr 0SW10zVGyVm6eEwjjEgoxPIuHmku0AxWYnmtXAk5RdafX1y0C2hQDfUcCZndeD4gCUFO tHICoQqFx1N/RJtxjbZuTgfwQJTKnUCLr/6JZ+zsOB1rYMjYHrTAg7VYB/DCJT49uzXy jA3x+knmyrPCw64bMopwMPZ7w7BHTL/5OeqY4W9dRKcS/Od1qRzdCGSr89LCdkJ9ELRV wwS18ggBtpdOM6ybmENPbZqmvqWX9fcGaGs/nmDGZHpoZFayu4ysBBhkQr+7nVXT8Rv/ eG1Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVX+b7Xjcn0povzIieTFisbKwtmP2MTsUa3Hxrk5mwQojAXQFMm gWue/yaHdxHt42Oixtfadbr5G2PUN+nBI9p9yKkcbt4/Ntg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzgLnOs2kWnQGYGE2xF5xx6E04iCF+JMYI1PHiVgSIFPZhIzX9iZnOot4anUObnVBP0ahVpT5JzvoDeiag8XSo= X-Received: by 2002:adf:e5c3:: with SMTP id a3mr132540wrn.217.1568645890148; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 07:58:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190913221345.GA16129@minnie.tuhs.org> <20190914020240.GO2046@mcvoy.com> <20190914024433.GA19193@minnie.tuhs.org> <2e84c4d0-5239-b223-856d-00aacf8d3028@andrewnesbit.org> <201909150654.x8F6sChG021185@freefriends.org> <201909160552.x8G5qBYK025195@freefriends.org> <20190916145122.GH2046@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: <20190916145122.GH2046@mcvoy.com> From: Clem Cole Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 10:57:43 -0400 Message-ID: To: Larry McVoy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000fa0590592acd54f" Subject: Re: [TUHS] earliest Unix roff X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000000fa0590592acd54f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 10:51 AM Larry McVoy wrote: > I hate texinfo and friends. I get why it is better than man, but man was > good enough, more than good enough, and the GNU project took everything > it could find and destroyed the man pages. > Amen, bro. As I said, it was not 'social compliant' which was really a not very nice thing to do. It's arrogant to say in effect "your way is wrong, I'm going to try to kill it off." > > If you have something like perl that needs a zillion sub pages, info > makes sense. For just a man page, info is horrible. I'm not even sure, I like that, to be honest. I'm 'old school' enough to rather use a book from ORA or the like. --0000000000000fa0590592acd54f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On M= on, Sep 16, 2019 at 10:51 AM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
I hate texinfo and friends.=C2= =A0 I get why it is better than man, but man was
good enough, more than good enough, and the GNU project took everything
it could find and destroyed the man pages.
= Amen, bro.=C2=A0 =C2=A0As I said, it was not 's= ocial compliant' which was really a not very=C2=A0nice thing to do.=C2= =A0 =C2=A0It's arrogant to say in effect "your way is wrong, I'= ;m going to try to kill it off."
= =C2=A0

If you have something like perl that needs a zillion sub pages, info
makes sense.=C2=A0 For just a man page, info is horrible.
I'm not even sure, I=C2=A0like that,= to be honest. I'm 'old school' enough to rather use a book fro= m ORA or the like.=C2=A0
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