From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: clemc@ccc.com (Clem Cole) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 20:07:45 -0400 Subject: [TUHS] attachments: MIME and uuencode In-Reply-To: <34f2acb2-d104-ffde-c36e-4cc14905fe21@mhorton.net> References: <71748884-ac1a-d565-aa08-80f9220594ac@mhorton.net> <34f2acb2-d104-ffde-c36e-4cc14905fe21@mhorton.net> Message-ID: Maybe - I'm not sure how much of my Tek old stuff is recoverable. I did just find something for Noel recently. Who knows ;-) There is one tape I have from that time that a) I'm not sure what is on it and b) if its readable. It's on my to do list. I will add it to the pile, Clem On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Mary Ann Horton wrote: > That's interesting, Clem. It would be useful to date the real date of the > first email attachment sent. Right now the only firm date we have is > 6/1/80. Do you have any old email or copy of uuencode that could establish > an earlier date? > > Thanks, > > Mary Ann > > On 03/12/2017 10:42 AM, Clem Cole wrote: > > I think it might actually predates 6/1/80 by 6-9 months because I was at > Tek a year earlier and you and I started corresponding that first summer I > was at Tek. I remember that you had sent me a copy of it shortly after you > wrote it. So I think there is a chance that that might be a slightly later > version. > > Clem > > On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Mary Ann Horton wrote: > >> I just heard from a historian named Piotr Klaban with an interesting >> historical sidelight. >> >> Apparently today 3/11/17 is being publicized as the 25th anniversary of >> the email attachment, citing Nat Borenstein's MIME. Piotr points out that >> uuencode predates MIME, and he's right. >> >> I checked and, while I don't have any email archives from that time frame >> at Berkeley, I was able to find the 4BSD archive on minnie that dates the >> uuencode.1c man page at 6/1/80. We didn't call them attachments back then, >> just sending binary files by email. (Prior to then it was common to just >> include the text of the file raw in the email, which only worked for ASCII >> files.) It was a few years later when cc:Mail and Microsoft Mail started >> calling uuencoded files embedded in email "attachments". >> >> When MIME came out in 1992 I became a champion of SMTP/MIME as a standard >> - it was a big improvement. But uuencod predated MIME by 12 years. >> >> Mary Ann >> >> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: