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From: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
To: Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] off-topic list
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 13:37:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC20D2O=ncZ3ybjgTyMcM5+rGBPnJX1-E-312sPcm4wb+GE8hA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180625161016.C16BA18C082@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>

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Ah ... Makes sense.  MMDF was possibly my favorite Unix MTA.   We shipped
it as Masscomp's default Mail System for a longtime.   It was only after I
left that they broken down and switched to sendmail to be like Sun and much
of the rest of the internet.

It's Interesting, MMDF had a child, PMDF (the rewrite in Pascal) which
became the the default Mailer for a lot of VMS systems, particularly ones
that had IP connections.  I know of no one still running MMDF at this point
(even me), but I do know of a couple of folks running PMDF.  A few years
ago, I gave up on MMDF and switched to Bornstien's QMAIL because of DNS
issues.    In many ways, MMDF and QMAIL are a lot alike in the way they
work under the covers, but to give Bornstien credit he had really walked
through QMAIL doing a security audit and I was unwilling to take the time
to do that for MMDF; and I knew that any MTA on the internet had to be
hardenned.  I'm sure MMDF could be attacked with stack overwrites and
strcpy(3) style attacks because when Crocker wrote it, that was not what
was being considered.
ᐧ

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
wrote:

>     > From: Clem Cole
>
>     > the MTA part is not there
>
> That system was using the MMDF MTA:
>
>   https://minnie.tuhs.org//cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=SRI-NOSC/mmdf
>
> written by David Crocker while he was at UDel (under Farber).
>
>         Noel
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-25 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-25 16:10 Noel Chiappa
2018-06-25 17:37 ` Clem Cole [this message]
2018-06-25 19:35   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-06-25 20:09     ` Clem Cole
2018-06-25 20:47       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-06-25 21:15         ` Clem Cole
2018-06-26  7:01           ` arnold
2018-06-26  8:57           ` Derek Fawcus
2018-06-26 11:29         ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-06-26 13:09       ` Tony Finch
2018-06-26 18:04         ` Warner Losh
2018-06-26 21:16           ` Clem Cole
2018-06-27 21:33             ` Michael Parson
2018-06-27 22:27               ` Clem cole
2018-06-28  5:57                 ` arnold
2018-06-28 18:36                   ` Michael Parson
2018-06-26 15:57       ` Michael Kjörling
2018-06-26 21:09         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-06-26 21:18           ` Clem Cole
2018-06-26 23:45             ` George Michaelson
2018-06-25 20:15     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-06-26  8:27       ` Tony Finch
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-06-25 14:44 Noel Chiappa
2018-06-25 15:44 ` Clem Cole
2018-06-25 16:03   ` Paul Winalski
2018-06-25 17:22     ` Clem Cole
2018-06-24 13:14 Noel Chiappa
2018-06-25  1:38 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-06-25  1:46   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-06-25 16:44     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-06-25 12:45 ` Tony Finch
2018-06-25 16:41 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-06-24  3:08 Norman Wilson
2018-06-22 22:23 Doug McIlroy
2018-06-22 23:20 ` John P. Linderman
2018-06-23  0:22 ` Warren Toomey
2018-06-22  2:21 Noel Chiappa
2018-06-21 22:44 [TUHS] core Nelson H. F. Beebe
2018-06-21 23:07 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-06-21 23:47   ` [TUHS] off-topic list Warren Toomey
2018-06-22  1:11     ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-06-22  3:53     ` Robert Brockway
2018-06-22  4:18     ` Dave Horsfall
2018-06-22 11:44       ` Arthur Krewat
2018-06-22 14:28       ` Larry McVoy
2018-06-22 14:46         ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-06-22 14:54           ` Larry McVoy
2018-06-22 15:17             ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-06-22 17:27               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-06-22 19:25                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-06-22 21:04                   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-06-23 14:49                     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-06-23 15:25                       ` Toby Thain
2018-06-23 18:49                       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-06-23 21:05                         ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS
2018-06-23 21:21                         ` Michael Parson
2018-06-23 23:31                           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-06-23 23:36                             ` Larry McVoy
2018-06-23 23:37                               ` Larry McVoy
2018-06-24  0:20                                 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-06-25  2:53                           ` Dave Horsfall
2018-06-25  5:40                             ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-06-25  6:15                             ` arnold
2018-06-25  7:27                               ` Bakul Shah
2018-06-25 12:52                               ` Michael Parson
2018-06-25 13:41                                 ` arnold
2018-06-25 13:56                                   ` arnold
2018-06-25 13:59                               ` Adam Sampson
2018-06-25 15:05                               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-06-26  9:05                               ` Derek Fawcus
2018-06-23 22:38                         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-06-24  0:18                           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-06-24 10:04                             ` Michael Kjörling
2018-06-25 16:10                               ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-06-25 18:48                                 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-06-25 14:18                             ` Clem Cole
2018-06-25 15:51                             ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-06-25 18:21                               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-06-26 20:38                                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-06-22 16:07             ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-06-22 16:36               ` Steve Johnson
2018-06-22 20:55               ` Bakul Shah
2018-06-22 14:52         ` Ralph Corderoy
2018-06-22 15:13           ` SPC
2018-06-22 16:45           ` Larry McVoy
2018-06-22 15:28         ` Clem Cole
2018-06-22 17:17         ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-06-22 18:00         ` Dan Cross
2018-06-22 17:29       ` Cág

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