From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 20869 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2023 21:45:18 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Mar 2023 21:45:18 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BC0415AC; Sat, 11 Mar 2023 07:45:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-yw1-x112d.google.com (mail-yw1-x112d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::112d]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9359F415AA for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2023 07:45:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-yw1-x112d.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-540a12e0e78so21583877b3.6 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 13:45:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; t=1678484705; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=obUYZ+KJVi1Vc7Y9Y+mdsnaW2Ww1c3kD6eQOB59e2Xw=; b=VxLXvDLyuW0sREJ/7uwp2AhunNEcY/4Xd5sNMr190XaF0bImC2rguuJNTA20rtr7Ma BMSyQ+glZHvkHZe+nlElc/krexgD4jYRElT7nh/KOLId7LOxZS8S+1MudPGOYFtNqe48 BkX08mAagi7bOs14LkIm0q1lgPpH67fSCw1bQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1678484705; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=obUYZ+KJVi1Vc7Y9Y+mdsnaW2Ww1c3kD6eQOB59e2Xw=; b=GmqgoaD46di8C9f2BSGDnja4+ukpUCDz1+ZNMGzprmtgZBnKrjdb2mB2DcPIthP0L7 6aSHg0Raw6Gp6jqKYg5EF5gO5YYGZ14Gi1IzU9zkwLb9p/kF0TngNd8V7iZDvw6NJwrS u6qHRfMyes3Vzr7M9k04b5xr4yMVh0bvMuUIPAJyg9IAGk3NjLLBWjHKCuvPzICOPDVs m7SI6LceqmugjxVcYDW7N5JUKSflkzVljmUcVUixt6dAjRsEYHfqc1rYxxPrhdpmWL/Z nBCej/N0MEGhG+kiQnXZGZcHs4zST2sqOMIaR417ewezvOw/4rpCP55i5wWeQ5PEj6H5 WtaQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKV5pdFTa3tOYT0O/kxX6WSpwKLEIF0QNbbsGH/4nX6yrKZbU3hf Y5ZWbget4JHe/WgbAIoJDIC373GfCQk/u+06OGeEFg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set+vhFOfK7XIAZel1KHU1qk2fXLJVNcIg6V0AiXPSUIkianGq+VmtH1FLfXcwvbLa+7bspfIQSiNp+dZXGATDkU= X-Received: by 2002:a81:ad5a:0:b0:536:4d58:54b2 with SMTP id l26-20020a81ad5a000000b005364d5854b2mr17990644ywk.4.1678484705459; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 13:45:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9QXzG1pmIgoHdlkiU-ljIDoco5SPzWKEudlEu8W26K28NXD_2bgCijSQmWAn7CBthISuVyzSuxvPGUKmv6A5Gsc-GoNrDb8SA1D5_m449nA=@protonmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 16:44:39 -0500 Message-ID: To: Warner Losh Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a151f605f692ac30" Message-ID-Hash: U75POJWPFSF3THFHUQ4437UWC42KAMBN X-Message-ID-Hash: U75POJWPFSF3THFHUQ4437UWC42KAMBN X-MailFrom: clemc@ccc.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: segaloco , The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: PWB 1.0 Distro and Licensing Timeframe List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000a151f605f692ac30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 4:24=E2=80=AFPM Warner Losh wrote: > How did The Wollongong Group sell/send out the Interdata/Harris Unix Leve= l > 6 binaries then? Or did they get some kind of special since they bought t= he > rights from Wollongong University? > It was a special and a big mess and had a lot folks in AT&T legal concerned - particularly because at the time, they were being investigated by the US Justice Dept. But it was what forced the creation of the general V7 redistribution license (and the crappy terms associated with it). That was part of the solution - make sure anyone could get such a license - but like the original research >use<< licenses AT&T made it clear that were NOT marketing UNIX and it was NOT in the computer business. Each vendor was on his/her own. =E1=90=A7 --000000000000a151f605f692ac30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 4:24= =E2=80=AFPM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.co= m> wrote:
How did The Wollongong Group sell/send out the Inte= rdata/Harris Unix Level 6 binaries then? Or did they get some kind of speci= al since they bought the rights from Wollongong University?
It was a special=C2=A0and a big mess and had=C2=A0a lot f= olks in AT&T legal concerned=C2=A0- particularly because at the time, t= hey were being investigated by the US Justice Dept. But it was what forced = the creation of the general V7 redistribution license (and the crappy terms= associated with it).=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0That was part of the sol= ution - make sure anyone could get such a license - but like the original r= esearch >use<< licenses AT&T made it clear that were NOT marke= ting UNIX and it was NOT in the computer business. Each vendor was on his/h= er own.




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