From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id fd2f4b30 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 02:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 30CB89BCD7; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 12:05:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DEB9BCB5; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 12:05:17 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="mSdDE5FI"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9C7149BCA9; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 12:05:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f173.google.com (mail-qk1-f173.google.com [209.85.222.173]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16F41945FC for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2020 12:05:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f173.google.com with SMTP id t129so4602334qke.10 for ; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 18:05:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=VLFhDUtXRVTEF4JpWoxoke6oS+EoESucwlL7zPrYHsE=; b=mSdDE5FIFN/ZiLHKjuuItet8Fz0Ohs47Sx6ZULip/VHaSHDFttP63ubrev+NB7O1mB 20pUI1/eV2Rrj9Ga/WuCbIABeoISh01fhytW6BRU2qPVwyhueHIaUq32Yhlx7yNHTRuq +iRNqkNqnM5j45bTFHLRpV/PuevMjNw/WgTyM= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=VLFhDUtXRVTEF4JpWoxoke6oS+EoESucwlL7zPrYHsE=; b=CVxqZLc2LuzXneUB3no9RJB8fgBsaEE6JQVLhOqnXUAChGpCwtGE4nqF9Hb5Ny0uId orgHfkMFd+vKJlpHkt6ZIKjg1sVyWtthyO75J6c+6HQuD57aig89Un5Ho8apOhzB7+L0 yvUIRFCtW/WGHI3zJ9V83s72h3EGff3cKkKYCmRj3EMpAW68DMs5N9/auSS1RtIDrUa2 3c29R/n9ZvaqROc2E+7Elnv5w9sTG7Dt/4yXpVbOGKH1VTfYWkCuvohYxMrntvYUeWnX c6EOtMAOfufx8/yLd37KC42HNhpAasRicsZrRTsa9NqRPynVdW8VPrQ/4VX/EtaIfac6 n4ig== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUR0kN534tmrq/hJFl0nbQKgXf29U0TJfUmrRNpEw/3X2k8KJtk rN6HtHCTKNvsSixJ/Cqg1jE+hXWoTyCHdHhqCgRODQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxLw8Sdl9+OyEB35n0c+hKuf6YwwQwbsqD0AAcHzzc36iKhogbF/5sIqI26v1aWGEWnWNjqfIYO+kZemVJEANg= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:4db:: with SMTP id 27mr7547421qks.146.1578535513125; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 18:05:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200109012830.GC16808@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 21:04:46 -0500 Message-ID: To: Bakul Shah Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008689e2059bab7024" Subject: Re: [TUHS] screen editors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000008689e2059bab7024 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 8:41 PM Bakul Shah wrote: > The first thing I do on a new machine is to install nvi. Very grateful to > Keith Bostic for implementing it. I do use multiple windows =E2=80=94 onl= y > horizontal splits but that is good enough for me as all my terminal > windows are 80 chars wide. Not a vim hater but never saw the need. I pretty much do the same thing. I think what I hate about vim is that it's almost, vi but not the same. My fingers screw up when I use it. For instance, he 'fixed' undo. I guess I learned my lesson from my time at UCB. Henry Spencer once said, "BSD 4.2 is just like UNIX, only different."= I rather see something new and completely different than changing behavior that people rely upon. --0000000000008689e2059bab7024 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On W= ed, Jan 8, 2020 at 8:41 PM Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com> wrote:
The first thing I = do on a new machine is to install nvi. Very grateful to
Keith Bostic for implementing it. I do use multiple windows =E2=80=94 only<= br> horizontal splits but that is good enough for me as all my terminal
windows are 80 chars wide. Not a vim hater but never saw the need.
I pretty much do the same thing= . I think what I hate about vim is that it's almost, vi but not the sam= e. My fingers screw up when I use it.=C2=A0 For instance, he 'fixed'= ; undo.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I guess I learned my lesson from my time at UCB.=C2=A0 = Henry Spencer once said, "BSD 4.2 is just like UNIX, only different.&q= uot;=C2=A0=C2=A0I rather see something new and completely differ= ent than changing behavior that people rely upon.
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