From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id dae8e4b5 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 00:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id ABD489BFED; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 10:46:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6BB947A2; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 10:46:35 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="ZzR6Wq6O"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 22FE8947A2; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 10:46:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wr1-f45.google.com (mail-wr1-f45.google.com [209.85.221.45]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A1829479A for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 10:46:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wr1-f45.google.com with SMTP id l11so1244808wrx.5 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:46:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ks+kcrJrBiKGbH4LV9q1XgmOaVqLKas9fP/yG2Zp3us=; b=ZzR6Wq6O8Tn0HSup6A5Yd5v0jmUPR/x9iFuZV6gQrcDdvu+CBSHwaQCCT+3+fqt9q8 Rq66EU03tfiO2hTAPNeri40pzDxC55xWhQSeG7K8Bgo9hndQ1CV8uUENYhsowQAc5tOf duvL078Qt+WnP4MWenOv4GzxtpF8AG2Ujgnxc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ks+kcrJrBiKGbH4LV9q1XgmOaVqLKas9fP/yG2Zp3us=; b=FhPa0n0+/cPNyU7HHJ2utS47mTv2mOyF3zyDxCGBxTKkl9P3Ad2i2xyjY/qQHqxZCk O8p9Su1VIoA5y7Gyo/oB0UIQq93lGZUzD58tttHjF8xwBKX3WDq57HJzjJQYcbfY8pnH 9dLjCBaNIS+qi7lCa3b1lJ4FV4W+o091ko4i0TdPXHXJngF0tM21j5Q0PKiTSNvnJEt4 2sRshKYWQCMIztQMRz0K7apIZZjR5lMg+1F3AGp+XVfhcAiawYxE51sxHQedW3wG3pTv iXjxaq5/+zoTYSgTqrNdoskdZ2SFHAPwtBadSw8NpV5DsAVxjDOsb9RAeqbGXEvfkHxc 8SKg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVRUZBtU27Jky+EkEpIj94CHSUYmagoWuoev1wIa/kbSdUaRqK2 WxqlrJHX8u6CiytjIYOjA4Wfic3JBekI4DcEWZB3rajmgS8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwAWy9713tKHdGF2HlCHc3M2ZKCTpUNkfpQpS7dslu0TfwaeD7GVc6I/dC0OuP1/pSiHqwVhEypdDznkYEOhi8= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:5384:: with SMTP id d4mr706255wrv.255.1568681191914; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:46:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201909132024.x8DKObEP013266@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <463d5cc4-9bef-9ac3-a680-a5161d664dc1@aueb.gr> <20190913221345.GA16129@minnie.tuhs.org> <20190914020240.GO2046@mcvoy.com> <20190914024433.GA19193@minnie.tuhs.org> <2e84c4d0-5239-b223-856d-00aacf8d3028@andrewnesbit.org> <201909150654.x8F6sChG021185@freefriends.org> <201909160552.x8G5qBYK025195@freefriends.org> <7wd0g0o2a0.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 20:46:20 -0400 Message-ID: To: Dave Horsfall Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000035dcc10592b50d53" Subject: Re: [TUHS] earliest Unix roff X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000035dcc10592b50d53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The USG pg program was created after UCB released more. Btw this was before vi or csh was distributed. But too many BTL folks had seen BSD during there OYOC year and either demanded it or had brought what was in effect 2BSD back with them. On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 6:06 PM Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Mon, 16 Sep 2019, Clem Cole wrote: > > > > However, please note that more(1) also was inspired by, almost > > > copied from, ITS. Certainly the prompt --More-- is. > > > > Absolutely. A friend of mine/fellow UCB grad student, Eric Shienbrood, > > wrote it. He was a MIT undergrad. And Eric happily said it was modeled > > from ITS. And before, Eric wrote it, UNIX lacked anything like it. > > Which to me is fine, taking an idea from another system to add a new > > feature that is lacking. > > Am I the only one who remembers the old "pg" program? It seems to have > disappeared. > > -- Dave -- Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual --00000000000035dcc10592b50d53 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The USG pg program was created after UCB released mo= re.=C2=A0 Btw this was before vi or csh was distributed.=C2=A0 But too many= BTL folks had seen BSD during there OYOC year and either demanded it or ha= d brought what was in effect 2BSD back with them.

On Mon, Sep 16,= 2019 at 6:06 PM Dave Horsfall <dav= e@horsfall.org> wrote:
On Mo= n, 16 Sep 2019, Clem Cole wrote:

> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0However, please note that more(1) also = was inspired by, almost
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0copied from, ITS.=C2=A0 Certainly the p= rompt --More-- is.
>
> Absolutely.=C2=A0 A friend of mine/fellow UCB grad student, Eric Shien= brood,
> wrote it.=C2=A0 He was a MIT undergrad. And Eric happily=C2=A0said it = was modeled
> from ITS. And before, Eric wrote it, UNIX lacked anything like it.=C2= =A0
> =C2=A0Which to me is fine, taking an idea from another system to add a= new
> feature that is lacking.

Am I the only one who remembers the old "pg" program?=C2=A0 It se= ems to have
disappeared.

-- Dave
--
Sent from a handheld expect more = typos than usual
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