From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id e686adf8 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 19:31:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 18CDEA1B0A; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 05:31:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BF1A1A21; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 05:31:23 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b=oABhIOVd; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 844A7A1A21; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 05:31:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-io0-f171.google.com (mail-io0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16931A1A1C for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 05:31:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-io0-f171.google.com with SMTP id y10-v6so5474830ioa.10 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:31:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=oITdFi5QQR+gpb//r5GZf6RsVQ00WQR7ZHddJ8wXUSs=; b=oABhIOVd+vDEOQw4gw/UXIpBAIMcDnZAe1qN7GKpc6Wrk0r5GvdEn5qOKunb9eBU03 VUg6outwT6u8Ib4D4ytCHejMTNW4eDgrxIInEMv4N8EUa+kHEabiYnyjV1NRXchnkjkr U0RIwBcU1VnAeTgLRNVYMMDmxaKYEZdDe9b9o= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=oITdFi5QQR+gpb//r5GZf6RsVQ00WQR7ZHddJ8wXUSs=; b=q/rGXCYaM2LIb31FI4SJRVL0MVu6JrvrZmHvcYUE1St0kqHrq0Lg63p5vDvKXODwu9 tqI0g86sOFFgh/aK2SBYTIe9eru2T3h8xo3wWPCVze8qCn5TZnWbCcJJa7fniFCZOKtW +UpDNCMbClUJIat4L4LKHL6JRZUDqyYGoMg+qmbHCtEfDI9a/rXrpiXYfsTnyB6jSDKq qjKFvFTIs/unCWzHq77dL93DG1l8isLFzFmsb4+u4mSi3SGX84dlqSw6Npa/uGntv9fD x51WH6NsnrKjZtQnQYaOfXZb4bZK3CCiXs1XV9HQ04nHNiOUUi9rtZklWhQm0f7WYgMs nxZg== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51DE/0VZe1MpfRbf+xIm+lQITXoMYBbIca1lxeaigDk1yfOdVXjS CvUKrCfY7+ssU/l2JkXl1fYs7JwFyL2QlqBVkt3pc7jC X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdaEkrvBha7AZEj7yk8uiSMrj9u75rZh6CTx9fsbAKb6OVoPU0N6vkntDjFHF+P7d89la5F9jo5bZxnEaoM6cIc= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:9651:: with SMTP id y78-v6mr6542264iod.283.1535571079357; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:31:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1F62F4D0-7AD1-43C2-A9B7-CF9DF239C3D9@berlan.de> <02ee9a61-2920-40e0-bfa4-feb8b3d38c73@gmail.com> <30f470e7-12cb-00ac-6461-35ce8dfb425d@kilonet.net> In-Reply-To: <30f470e7-12cb-00ac-6461-35ce8dfb425d@kilonet.net> From: Clem Cole Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 15:30:48 -0400 Message-ID: To: Arthur Krewat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b68d9c05749800cf" Subject: Re: [TUHS] =?utf-8?b?UmV0cm9OZXTigKY=?= X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000b68d9c05749800cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Right but for goodness sake, try to make a DH11 work; not a DZ11!!! Real DZ11'S were SW pigs and consumed a measurable percentage of a vax, particularly when running uucico(8) (they are interrupt crazy). It is one of the reasons why the Unix community in those days always recommended Able DH/DMs on Vaxen. Clem =E1=90=A7 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:57 PM Arthur Krewat wrote: > Ala DZ11 support in the KS10 emulator of SIMH ;) > > > > On 8/29/2018 2:50 PM, Clem Cole wrote: > > >> We can take this off line. As I said, it been done a numberof times > with simh and the like. The key is that simh creates a 'serial line' on= a > TCP port. You tell UNIX to hang a login off it and then you telnet or > whatever to that port. The older system running in simh, thinks it has= a > serial line. It pretty much just works; al biet is slow as hell and che= ws > up a ton of resources. > > > --000000000000b68d9c05749800cf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Right but for goodness sake, try to make a DH11 work;= =C2=A0not a DZ11!!!=C2=A0 =C2=A0Real DZ11'S were SW pigs and consumed a= measurable=C2=A0percentage of a vax, particularly when running uucico(8) (= they are interrupt crazy).=C2=A0 =C2=A0It is one of the reasons why the Uni= x community in those days always recommended Able DH/DMs on Vaxen.
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Ala DZ11 support in the KS10 emulator of SIMH ;)



On 8/29/2018 2:50 = PM, Clem Cole wrote:

We can take this off line.=C2=A0 =C2=A0As I said, it been done a numberof tim= es with simh and the like.=C2=A0 =C2=A0The key is that simh creates a = 9;serial line' on a TCP port.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 You tell UNIX to hang a log= in off it and then you telnet or whatever to that port.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The ol= der system running in simh, thinks it has a serial line.=C2=A0 =C2=A0= It pretty much just works; al biet is slow as hell and chews up a ton of resources.

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