From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 39cf7503 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 419EC9BFDB; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 03:36:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6309478F; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 03:36:06 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="bRsRTFyZ"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E495E9478F; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 03:36:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wm1-f52.google.com (mail-wm1-f52.google.com [209.85.128.52]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 885DF9478D for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 03:36:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wm1-f52.google.com with SMTP id g207so241658wmg.5 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 10:36:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=d3WqlWc8B+Sta2Y53j7a+KP2rlIXs5SCNudDY1Gar3o=; b=bRsRTFyZ32GHuzy0xSkJWj4IPX+TFudH/0eHvZgMTT/sWVVVsLR9DDFXwGrph+Swlj e13SuSoaD4mVnlguDuodZPgZugphZpzDv/uo/oCnGQNR+IHvJHUj9uxelNOquSHylM6r Oky85HfdwVemF3fwnVb4YxM3MT6ITZ9ghNJvU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=d3WqlWc8B+Sta2Y53j7a+KP2rlIXs5SCNudDY1Gar3o=; b=Eb+RjnnpsB49tZeWpbvOyjmPnk6CgHyXHntsKiQN6kvaHVFO92NX3g6UAJWrvfBx/g qdO/1YXlfdYiaxX3R3PZr4F6YSP458FEVwcz8UW86P8alYxbnbRzt4QwLIv0M7jY2eFq 0dh8T1WJ8yvUj3WJKSE3WgB9s1e0HyV43sfma+2PAZis+KJdmS/3JGa452l6X84ur1mv I4AiLopNC1CMZ9nEfqRVN8UK2EmF0+6M6OU2zNPKVfP3cPF20dy+9u5ISQITxzu+zghe X/lJFKeVfv1xyj0IQty3Pbk34SDX4bF3UMXYaG1OM57e4teV72+rMfkzQcRqxZzk8hRy Wjng== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX5SS9w6R3Inl5bjKrN8dcBlCW8lbImvqQz97c5P0TEgWSK9uV0 Ku+AjsO9strmIzwYIkYS1JjHWOrOMQ7oetXprHB8sw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwJfKrBZfcxnFaFRb+21QZat2eq2k4bjfWKMdS4OkZQsmWc29hp4HwZe8cAVUiEAHC8XaVg6tBCNTNzpJFuaaQ= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:2d85:: with SMTP id t127mr228008wmt.81.1568655363168; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 10:36:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190916145122.GH2046@mcvoy.com> <20190916161040.GM2046@mcvoy.com> <201909161616.x8GGG4Fb020760@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20190916162614.GO2046@mcvoy.com> <20190916164502.GQ2046@mcvoy.com> <20190916171905.piituc2qdh46kejt@unixfarts.net> <20190916172422.GS2046@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: <20190916172422.GS2046@mcvoy.com> From: Clem Cole Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 13:35:36 -0400 Message-ID: To: Larry McVoy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b272260592af0992" Subject: Re: [TUHS] earliest Unix roff X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000b272260592af0992 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:24 PM Larry McVoy wrote: > The secondary point is they could have *added* to Unix by making a > man2info command > Exactly!!!! That's what Eric did when he wrote more(ucb) - he *added to Unix*. The funny part was that USG thought more(ucb) was a good idea and then wrote their own, pg(att); which was just as arrogant as the info behavior from the Gnu folks!!! Later, Less(internet) replaced more, but only as a superset, building on the foundation and eventually USB chose to ship more also as so many people wanted it. As I said yesterday, standing on the shoulders, not on their toes. --000000000000b272260592af0992 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On M= on, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:24 PM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
The secondary point is they cou= ld have *added* to Unix by making a
man2info command

Exactly!!!!=C2=A0 =C2=A0That's what Eric did when he wrote more(= ucb) -=C2=A0 he added to Unix.=C2=A0 =C2=A0The funny part was that U= SG thought more(ucb) was a good idea and then wrote their own, pg(att); whi= ch was just as arrogant=C2=A0as the info behavior from the Gnu folks!!!=C2= =A0 =C2=A0Later, Less(internet) replaced more, but only as a superset, buil= ding on the foundation and eventually USB chose to ship more also as so man= y people wanted it.

As I said yesterday, standing on the shoulders,= not on their toes.
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