From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id a45ef35f for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 22:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 80E0A947D5; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:56:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01D494792; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:55:39 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="TH5Plh6N"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 8371894792; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:55:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wm1-f54.google.com (mail-wm1-f54.google.com [209.85.128.54]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D933693D23 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:55:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wm1-f54.google.com with SMTP id p7so4249507wmp.4 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 15:55:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=c/dryU4924TK8miYCoUd5WeQ8kFE+UjSOWZqpgxAnMw=; b=TH5Plh6NRsEU/9tS64Kqd8zogS2c25IqzknIrvONNKQHlMx+b19aD7CXJphlSuI0Pz TCtn9irYMD6mY/mQYluceWhO1oEipDwpzVdlPPCMsew7SNQLFUEnIzqQ3/gkHpXmfM/y A9w6LLlOLpL/nlwt79uC0SP8/3MruIHRm9/OA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=c/dryU4924TK8miYCoUd5WeQ8kFE+UjSOWZqpgxAnMw=; b=l/2n1XPuPpWUqkvQhC02iTcGVWK/EHaMqF5mBEQuO5RIpxdCiidULzEViGY9PF3v0N mI/0VeS5iu04wwQMl3LTYLCR0GCZGS01erv4Ds/9ZrztQ7UP7pnIFcDwWRBA6tsVvSKm FnRCtD5sHjFrKnwePgat0m3mHqHThIwDRoBiC+BRgZAnK6admt7LP26jqv3kL6t7wkAa ltMfSzhvvDfsa9q1mDBdBSYitPAAjdAAGbcxg5dXlPTezbKprDLvNcmWVkU6Rftp15c0 0wch8APmiE4HxdchcCBYFxUq8j3Ou8KcrJwiQTlrfztDwGQurVC8DJqh9lxURx2UoDbn PCLA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVKIVEUx8DBQaHxpf+j2vHE6rxsbqcnfrtWNtXc2FehsKp9vCfl PleDP+KQr12+JwqILt7cpQevMo7banCL2LJszXLssDNN6kE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxtP6rgivTy17cfh90Kl9BvFkP3lEE5lZn9QMpnQDktTeg2gp4kyWtiDdtjrQxGtf0fECZ5zboLpwqR85SBXLs= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:cbcc:: with SMTP id b195mr5562374wmg.80.1568415335191; Fri, 13 Sep 2019 15:55:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201909132024.x8DKObEP013266@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <463d5cc4-9bef-9ac3-a680-a5161d664dc1@aueb.gr> <20190913221345.GA16129@minnie.tuhs.org> In-Reply-To: <20190913221345.GA16129@minnie.tuhs.org> From: Clem Cole Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 18:55:24 -0400 Message-ID: To: Warren Toomey Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ea599f05927726bd" Subject: Re: [TUHS] earliest Unix roff X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000ea599f05927726bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks. So we have a date that explains the pdp-11 assembler version - it was there at v1. On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 6:14 PM Warren Toomey wrote: > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 05:45:51PM -0400, Clem Cole wrote: > > It does leave us an interesting question, when did the original > roff(1) > > show up and when did nroff(1). The original, roff(1), was early, an= d > > of course not until after the original PDP-11/20 port. But was it a= s > > early as first edition? roff was the first formatting program. > nroff > > replaced it later on, although roff lived through the 6th edition (I > do > > not believe it is on the v7 tape). > > There was a roff on PDP-7 Unix: > > By the spring of 1971, it was generally agreed that no one had the > slightest interest in scrapping Unix. Therefore, we transliterated > the roff text formatter into PDP-11 assembler language, starting from > the PDP-7 version that had been transliterated from McIlroy=E2=80=99s= BCPL > version on Multics, which had in turn been inspired by J. Saltzer=E2= =80=99s > runoff program on CTSS. > > From "The Evolution of the Unix Time-sharing System" > > > http://www.read.seas.harvard.edu/~kohler/class/aosref/ritchie84evolution.= pdf > > Cheers, Warren > --=20 Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual --000000000000ea599f05927726bd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks.=C2=A0 So we have a date that explains the pd= p-11 assembler version - it was there at v1.

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