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From: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
To: Christopher Browne <cbbrowne@gmail.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Amdahl UTS, AIX/370, AIX/ESA
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 15:10:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC20D2ORG2Yrg06HC-8Bhihe1fB6zuXBzSg9a9CGhT04d39=OQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFNqd5UgLiawhFx_KHpip-eN--p+rqFiOLXHjrdZc0mF4Vd5Lg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 2:03 PM Christopher Browne <cbbrowne@gmail.com>
wrote:

> The dates seem to decently explain the invisibility; introduction in 1992
>
The formal introduction of the PS/2 was April 87 (by the crew of Mash for
the TV ads IIRC).  Again, if my memory serves LCC started working on UNIX
for the 370 in the mid'86s, actually before the PS/2 was announced, which
would be announced as AIX/370.   ISC had done the original 386 port for
Intel, IBM, and AT&T - but that was for an ISA based systems originally
[Phil Shevrin pulled one of the best sales jobs I ever knew -- he got paid
three times for the same basic work].

At some point (and I would have to ask someone like Bruce Walker or Greg
Thiel for the better info), the contract got widen AIX to include the PS/2
- a.k.a. create AIX/386.  How much of the original ISC work was that build
upon, I never knew.

LCC worked for a number of years and the two AIX's were available for
customers, probably under a special University license.   The formal
introduction was later (and '92 sounds right). But there were sites that
had one or both before that time.   I want to say, LCC worked with IBM for
about 8-10 years starting in the mid-80s. BTW: They also did a UNIX port to
AS/400 (on top of the native OS - similar to Eunice for the VAX or today's
MingWin and Dave Korn's UWIN stuff).   I've forgotten the dates on that, I
want to say 93/94 time frame.

Enough time has gone by, I think I can safely tell another story, WRT the
AS/400.  When that happened, IBM and LCC had a number oif years under their
bridge and the LCC management team thought we knew how to work with IBM.
Since we had a base IBM contract, we all figured that could be
added/amended to as needed.  When the folks from Rochester called asking
about a quote for the AS/400 work, our sales folks trotted out the existing
contract for AIX and figured - ok write a new SOW and we are done.   Nope
-- different division/different set of lawyers.  Something was said to us
in the form of 'Rochester Won the Baldridge Award.'   I remember our CEO
groaning - and saying something like 'Here we go again.'  It was then I
realized IBM was N different companies, each competing with each other.

Clem
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-11-05 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-03 21:05 Kevin Bowling
2019-11-03 23:29 ` Dennis Boone
2019-11-04  0:06   ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-04  1:29   ` Dennis Boone
2019-11-04  1:58     ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-04  3:39 ` Gregg Levine
2019-11-04  4:49   ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-04 15:32   ` Adam Thornton
2019-11-05 16:21   ` Ronald Natalie
2019-11-05 18:04     ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-05 19:22       ` ron
2019-11-05 17:30   ` Clem Cole
2019-11-05 18:07     ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-05 18:15       ` Clem Cole
2019-11-05 19:03       ` Christopher Browne
2019-11-05 19:12         ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-05 19:26           ` SPC
2019-11-05 19:28             ` SPC
2019-11-05 20:26               ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-05 20:10         ` Clem Cole [this message]
2019-11-05 20:42           ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-05 21:11             ` Clem Cole
2019-11-05 22:11     ` [TUHS] one element of one of M factions of N companies [Re: " Charles H Sauer
2019-11-06  0:06       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-06  3:36         ` Charles H. Sauer
2019-11-06  7:59           ` [TUHS] AOS and IBM/RT " SPC
2019-11-06 15:51             ` Charles H Sauer
2019-11-07 22:40               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-11-08  4:39                 ` Jason Stevens
2019-11-21  6:26             ` Al Kossow
2019-11-21 11:58               ` Dan Cross
2019-11-21 13:07                 ` Brad Spencer
2019-11-21 14:19                   ` Dan Cross
2019-11-21 16:16                     ` Chet Ramey
2019-11-21 20:53                       ` Dan Cross
2019-11-21 16:43                     ` greg travis
2019-11-21 19:41                       ` arnold
2019-11-21 20:21                         ` Jon Steinhart
2019-11-21 17:33                   ` Charles H Sauer
2019-11-21 17:36                     ` Dan Cross
2019-11-21 18:11                     ` Brad Spencer
2019-11-21 17:29                 ` Charles H Sauer
2019-11-22 20:38                 ` Al Kossow

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