From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 12819 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2023 17:47:33 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 8 Mar 2023 17:47:33 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A71412DD; Thu, 9 Mar 2023 03:47:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-xe2c.google.com (mail-vs1-xe2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2c]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCA4B412CD for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2023 03:47:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-xe2c.google.com with SMTP id v27so16102625vsa.7 for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 09:47:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; t=1678297644; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Thrqu0+h967IOfds8bDe2PHn8biqp6qMWCSENUkUV5Q=; b=nDO6xU0blASeFallLRhI4+IqOLVqHN7TDOYamF6qUoFkxc62a3J8e6pJ93nfxT/xnC ywZRgElIz5HupnfETUcrt/AdwCE9pAM52jGGzPKAkezR6kMc2yioz6Pgdf5HTosxD//f qiQOogTR9HcdK7eqbqse23e/rw63hnaAyHU1s= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1678297644; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Thrqu0+h967IOfds8bDe2PHn8biqp6qMWCSENUkUV5Q=; b=nJJEJSyJc/xxKnZZTydRX6YBA/Jp5qNgoraSQpTl+5E4PNGRPAZwe01+cN25KypHwt UVe5PRB5zxi1FZ5aTLfGJrNIGF670UUEPD6VKo9fXUbe8V8U48LWOds4JJbvyu6PG427 gEgawm4oSi6Ft8PpSnegJeOj9jwjKZ0jWOPedOijpEpN011hsuTxx2jtDGjuaugjO+Il 1uiQedumVdJcgfjm+EFxHFCRgTjxcgZK9jxA2AI8Ow7ZoVDzeAEJ8eHsQIMEwWDt/liR 5crkj656DYjV11OksumUYbuLv0edzN3qW7Abph1idfp6U7QnO0VD/Az9Nvux6IqLWi6D rLCQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKVQfgIjzYSXeyiVbVJbHDYtyWLJ6rZpe6OYVQw7hzdYz2zOFin+ Gm5YuxPLdzIjkZb2/xAceUENpjkzh7Q5tpZQ5CI4yQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set+5IQ2ysEV8XCgiUhVhAli9iD/DhzikWCrH8Tyjd7/dmNI/V/Fct5lKcbYIxHZgu4ZALsL4Bg9sqDYZHTK6BKk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:237a:b0:412:d18:c718 with SMTP id o26-20020a056102237a00b004120d18c718mr12211075vsa.3.1678297643778; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 09:47:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1297BE06-BE03-477A-AC60-40A269090295@planet.nl> <73309724-1F69-49D4-B54B-63DD298CBD27@planet.nl> <20230308165538.GB1867364@mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <20230308165538.GB1867364@mit.edu> From: Clem Cole Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 12:46:57 -0500 Message-ID: To: "Theodore Ts'o" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e297cb05f6671e00" Message-ID-Hash: DEXEZ7FZUEWY3VWBHZQR2B4YMOQKZHKX X-Message-ID-Hash: DEXEZ7FZUEWY3VWBHZQR2B4YMOQKZHKX X-MailFrom: clemc@ccc.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Paul Ruizendaal , "tuhs@tuhs.org" X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Origins of the frame buffer device List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000e297cb05f6671e00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 11:55=E2=80=AFAM Theodore Ts'o wrote= : > A year later, they came out with a version with X Windows, which made > it roughly comprable to a low-end Sun Workstation, at a price of $9k. > Given that in addition to the 3M's (1 MIPS, 1 Meg of Memory, and 1 > Megapixel graphics display), it also adhered to the "4th M", costing > roughly $10k, or a "Megapenny". :-) > CMU's SPICE proposal was for a 3M machine at under $5K by 1985. But you are right $10-15K was typical in those days. =E1=90=A7 --000000000000e297cb05f6671e00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 11:55= =E2=80=AFAM Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mi= t.edu> wrote:
A year later, they came out with a version with X Windows, which made<= br> it roughly comprable to a low-end Sun Workstation, at a price of $9k.
Given that in addition to the 3M's (1 MIPS, 1 Meg of Memory, and 1
Megapixel graphics display), it also adhered to the "4th M", cost= ing
roughly $10k, or a "Megapenny".=C2=A0 :-)
CMU's SPICE proposal was for a 3M machine at under $5K by 1985. But y= ou are right $10-15K was typical in those days.=C2=A0
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