From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 27525 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2020 21:13:08 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 3 Dec 2020 21:13:08 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7BB4A9CA4A; Fri, 4 Dec 2020 07:13:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812BC9CA4B; Fri, 4 Dec 2020 07:12:51 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="ZKV82VA4"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 979139CA4B; Fri, 4 Dec 2020 07:12:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f171.google.com (mail-qk1-f171.google.com [209.85.222.171]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D74219CA4A for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2020 07:12:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f171.google.com with SMTP id n132so3593516qke.1 for ; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 13:12:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=NJ6mY/0dSqariHCQULS8AE5GLvHoaMbA+k0knrI1KDw=; b=ZKV82VA4hpmXl0I7f6KFOzjFtlwiEadUw/B5YlCGeNmiBNRXA3rGxyAo9RR6OGexz2 PSf7O6d9VkylycTU0o6zczcb3sad2tJROBc83zJ73laGuvzrtMNt3vz+S2ANY99Nz70m VN9R/L5knKskIFaMxjeOTtQP8s36PUZIm4oYE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=NJ6mY/0dSqariHCQULS8AE5GLvHoaMbA+k0knrI1KDw=; b=F8ZBs+O8jGnOCHv9qhRTfIjFFjACYa9S5I51j86sqsIygDWdGorVVusAZZrwBs3NrT fbUf6efwbPtuvyfJ8SUIw17vxGRiKY8ayNlq0eXvapwuYRgpUV1tXolcy2AZ52uwjQVJ 7yUG9s7/lj8ojO+WgVF/k9Bp7MIu9IBR/VBi6VCLGBaK7rmZn43bZzD2AzidWnnVPJVG Vz4f7BSR2HPpVjx3u6V6J5IIpVBWNmE3ISA2B7GG+kY6l3NLsQ966VYesbwDr8baR00m V3fUS0wjCPBje5Lem7aXsbqniScZ953ZIqtrb5vXAkd3wFeh6n7gZ3ySxMjjgYBVFABd 70mQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531FU+E9yyhBsB1TLxXZtJIWOcghf61WnkPHh0QK2qx7dNeTq9cX Ihm7DMFnr9OybBnoUdUdnP3wzIKoPuKMQIdSI0M8NA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwSPrQcQkoCZJJ8dQ4oB/lID+JOwadbyAcoKOoayuUuirTF34OurTXIsga5upNivuJfpNeuLbu/4CS4j6vV0dY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:52c:: with SMTP id h12mr5100665qkh.307.1607029968792; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 13:12:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20201203204301.GW19746@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: <20201203204301.GW19746@mcvoy.com> From: Clem Cole Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 16:12:22 -0500 Message-ID: To: Larry McVoy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006f0f9905b595d248" Subject: Re: [TUHS] The UNIX Command Language (1976) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000006f0f9905b595d248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Yup early shell's equated ^ and | The problem was while the Model - 33, post 1965 could print a vertical bar, as note 2 of page three of teletypes document: "33 Keyboard" General Description and Principles of Operations" ISS 4, Section 574-121-100TC (Issue 4, June 1974), the keyboard could not generate it. On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 3:43 PM Larry McVoy wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 09:37:17PM +0100, Niklas Karlsson wrote: > > Den tors 3 dec. 2020 kl 21:32 skrev M Douglas McIlroy < > > m.douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu>: > > > > > There's a back story. The paper appears in the proceedings of a > > > conference held in London in 1973, a few months after the advent of > > > pipes. While preparing the presentation, Ken was inspired to invent > > > and install the pipe operator. His talk wouldn't have been nearly as > > > compelling had it been expressed in the original pipeline syntax (for > > > which I take the blame). > > > > > > > Now I'm curious. Is there anywhere I can read about the original pipeline > > syntax? I tried searching a bit, but the only mention that was even > vaguely > > informative only stated that > was involved. > > Wasn't there a version that was > > cat whatever ^ wc -l > > ? > --0000000000006f0f9905b595d248 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yup early shell's equated ^ and=C2=A0|=C2=A0
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The problem was while the Model - 33,=C2=A0 post 1965 could = print a vertical bar, as note 2 of page three of teletypes document: "= 33 Keyboard" General Description and Principles of Operations" IS= S 4, Section 574-121-100TC (Issue 4, June 1974), the keyboard could not gen= erate it.=C2=A0 =C2=A0

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 3:43 PM Larry McVoy &l= t;lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 09:37= :17PM +0100, Niklas Karlsson wrote:
> Den tors 3 dec. 2020 kl 21:32 skrev M Douglas McIlroy <
> m= .douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu>:
>
> > There's a back story. The paper appears in the proceedings=C2= =A0 of a
> > conference held in London in 1973, a few months after the advent = of
> > pipes. While preparing the presentation, Ken was inspired to inve= nt
> > and install the pipe operator. His talk wouldn't have been ne= arly as
> > compelling had it been expressed in the original pipeline syntax = (for
> > which I take the blame).
> >
>
> Now I'm curious. Is there anywhere I can read about the original p= ipeline
> syntax? I tried searching a bit, but the only mention that was even va= guely
> informative only stated that > was involved.

Wasn't there a version that was

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 cat whatever ^ wc -l

?
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