From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 22792 invoked from network); 14 May 2023 19:17:41 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 14 May 2023 19:17:41 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692C9411FD; Mon, 15 May 2023 05:17:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vk1-xa33.google.com (mail-vk1-xa33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a33]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82481411F0 for ; Mon, 15 May 2023 05:17:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vk1-xa33.google.com with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-44fba65000dso4182859e0c.2 for ; Sun, 14 May 2023 12:17:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; t=1684091845; x=1686683845; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=1Jd2AJLtvVfbIZ0Uv385plm23wI0Oarbki7kNzeXlSk=; b=ieJS6LVngoRccY5YiFkMoT+JRVsnWUMDBGXGEFcAOCvxb3RLEKEnyAEs19t2JAoxwq SgjV5LfO+0+umLgDqGt5d0yL0g8thn0Re+6AZkXd0OqQOkSgEQq/CPr/FnpKeOSW1UPk /uOB5YqN6LcuL6fKMZEFJPgNwlXfbH7s7eZVU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1684091845; x=1686683845; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=1Jd2AJLtvVfbIZ0Uv385plm23wI0Oarbki7kNzeXlSk=; b=QFakBK0NJP6s+uC+pzS38spmBdJd4JDpJDUj3USs9I0TnvNhuLLm2fuZRTJEleKC9a uh+ECWbqEn11zd4Xy2K/Qpl1ckV3mlXW+kQlVSFL+3fURZSzcDPi7hExlZbOtS4QHMc7 in8y97rDPFVTNmKR1LADCJoxlpRL3EFxYoI0EWFY8keqcp8CpRjJ683QdrHjakwinGHn OthkfImvA/dPDYK6A0irRHCHpozpEgYZEz+jFcz+Yy7+xbNrixG7UvQxC6l8Ay9FOruk t2ZTm261EettuAZ4r+6TDuCIq7XsI8ZQAJ1UrJ7MFJsFT7h8TVe6apCviAZtIzVwmK4k LOlA== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDybgztrVP/kpmLtCaDfAWc03CKXxLiYdbtgA4X2KnIV+L2gRQ9A ScfxC5TDtR7x0x+g751Ka/XjnLYwANEz/vRVaPYabw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ634PMjGZ5Pz/pISS9B4iuo6WCHnO3xytHNvyLPOEP40w4WxzPTheEkdXCtDrdW/wD+sAaAycf28kM1o2PyXAk= X-Received: by 2002:a67:eb53:0:b0:42c:900f:8486 with SMTP id x19-20020a67eb53000000b0042c900f8486mr13286875vso.27.1684091845294; Sun, 14 May 2023 12:17:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 15:16:59 -0400 Message-ID: To: segaloco Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000035510c05fbac304e" Message-ID-Hash: RG7S4ETTAW7SI6EH3345ZO5ZZMNIVZXS X-Message-ID-Hash: RG7S4ETTAW7SI6EH3345ZO5ZZMNIVZXS X-MailFrom: clemc@ccc.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Berkeley Font Catalog List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --00000000000035510c05fbac304e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PS I should probably add a small PS on the timeline. I got the vcat stuff from Ferin when I was still at Tektronix [where we had the two other members of the three 'Graphics Killer-Bs' -- Kelly Booth and the late John Beatty working with us in TekLabs during sabbaticals]. This was 2 years before I headed down to UCB myself. =E1=90=A7 On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 3:11=E2=80=AFPM Clem Cole wrote: > > > On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 2:17=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS = wrote: > >> Hello, I've just today secured purchase of an original 4BSD manual and >> papers set and a copy of what I believe is the V6 papers set as well. O= f >> note amongst the tabs I could read from the pictures of the Berkeley bin= der >> was a section of fonts that I don't think I've seen before named the >> Berkeley Font Catalog. I did a bit of searching around and didn't find >> anything matching that on first inspection re: scanned and source-availa= ble >> BSD doc collections. Anyone got the scoop on this? >> > Sure > > The Berkeley Font Catalog was a collection of 200 bpi fonts that could be > used with vcat - the virtual CAT/4 typesetter and old tools like some of > the original EE cad editors like Ken Keller's and another from Tom Ferrin > at UCSF. The bulk of them was a copy of the Hershey Fonts [ > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hershey_fonts] and a number of fonts > specialty fonts, such as a set for typing chess, that had been developed > originally for the XGP at CMU, MIT, and Stanford. Between the 3 ARPAnet > sites, there was a lot of mixing and matching. Note: I should have a Xer= ox > copy of them from one of the UCB docs in my files. They are on a BSD tape= , > I would look in the contributed area, but I don't remember. There is > likely troff input to print the catalog (using vcat), but again I am tryi= ng > to remember where any of that was in the distribution kits. > > FWIW: a few months back, Rob has corrected the history that the original > vcat(1) was Canadian in origin. I thought that Ferrin had his hand in an > early version that came to UCB (This is likely an example of the side > comment sometimes used, that joy peed on it to make things smell like UCB= , > as Tom was across the bay). I also thought Tom had collected much of the > catalog originally; and while I could be smoking something here -- I seem > to remember that he also had some sort of Stanford connection with some o= f > his graphics work [the UCSF and Stanford medical schools - were doing 3D > graphics for medical diags at some point]. Tom was a graphics guy, and = I > know he was mixed up in some of that so it would have made sense for him = to > be somehow involved. It was not for a few years later, when Barskey show= ed > up at UCB that there was any serious graphics work being done -- before > that, only ECAD tools like's Ken and later Oster's. > > Clem > =E1=90=A7 > --00000000000035510c05fbac304e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
PS I should probably add a small PS on the timeline.=C2= =A0 =C2=A0I got the vcat stuff from Ferin when I was still at Tektronix [wh= ere we had the two other members of the three 'Graphics Killer-Bs' = -- Kelly Booth and the late John Beatty working with us in TekLabs during s= abbaticals].=C2=A0 This was 2 years before I headed down to UCB myself.


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On Sun, May 14, 2023= at 3:11=E2=80=AFPM Clem Cole <clemc@cc= c.com> wrote:


On Sun, May 14, 2023= at 2:17=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
Hello, I've just today secured purchas= e of an original 4BSD manual and papers set and a copy of what I believe is= the V6 papers set as well.=C2=A0 Of note amongst the tabs I could read fro= m the pictures of the Berkeley binder was a section of fonts that I don'= ;t think I've seen before named the Berkeley Font Catalog.=C2=A0 I did = a bit of searching around and didn't find anything matching that on fir= st inspection re: scanned and source-available BSD doc collections.=C2=A0 A= nyone got the scoop on this?
Sure

The Berkeley Font Catalog was a collection o= f 200 bpi fonts that could be used with vcat - the virtual =C2=A0CAT/4 typesetter and old tools like some of the original EE cad editors li= ke Ken Keller's and another from Tom Ferrin at UCSF. The bulk of them w= as a copy of the Hershey Fonts [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hershey_fonts<= /a>] and a number of fonts specialty fonts, such as a set for typing=C2=A0c= hess, that had been developed originally for the XGP at CMU, MIT, and Stanf= ord.=C2=A0 Between the 3 ARPAnet sites, there was a lot of mixing and match= ing.=C2=A0 Note: I should have a Xerox copy of them from one of the=C2=A0UC= B docs in my files. They are on a BSD tape, I would look in the contributed= area, but I don't remember.=C2=A0 =C2=A0There is likely troff input to= print the catalog (using vcat), but again I am trying to remember where an= y of that was in the distribution kits.=C2=A0

FWIW: a few months back, Rob has corrected the history t= hat the original vcat(1) was Canadian in origin.=C2=A0 I thought that Ferri= n had his hand in an early version that=C2=A0came to UCB (This is likely an= example of the side comment sometimes=C2=A0used, that joy peed on it to ma= ke things smell like UCB, as Tom was across the bay).=C2=A0 I also thought = Tom had collected much of the catalog originally; and while I could be smok= ing something here -- I seem to remember that he also had some sort of Stan= ford connection with some of his graphics work [the UCSF and Stanford medic= al schools - were doing 3D graphics for medical diags at some point].=C2=A0= =C2=A0Tom was a graphics guy, and I know he=C2=A0was mixed up in some of t= hat so=C2=A0it would have made sense for him to be somehow involved.=C2=A0 = It was not for a few years later, when Barskey showed up at UCB that there = was any serious graphics work being done -- before that, only ECAD tools li= ke's Ken and later Oster's.=C2=A0
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