From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 13378 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2020 16:16:48 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 Jul 2020 16:16:48 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9942C9C9DE; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 02:16:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D6C9BA4E; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 02:15:49 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="MONYn0Sf"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 408389BA4E; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 02:15:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f176.google.com (mail-qk1-f176.google.com [209.85.222.176]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B20AE9BA36 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 02:15:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f176.google.com with SMTP id e13so13150952qkg.5 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 09:15:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=1bgLoCfFQXoPFYMgqW9cFekipmVz6iBGfhX/YW7MBqs=; b=MONYn0Sf5mbwnmxD5/1vEsMTU/iPMwekGzL9Vpya7M9D4wDp8p7mqJ0lsn3BW2vgQa nuJIQ0NV1tNah23g8RcpOfReJ1uv7Y7Lu18zujuxZgfsjYRy5HpIQStfvLiTliYz9wc4 QICMJ28lwXM3bfXKQWU6/5lXsccU4O+agQhI8= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1bgLoCfFQXoPFYMgqW9cFekipmVz6iBGfhX/YW7MBqs=; b=LUc6DNh+GyY8+4bEpITjYRMyXAFnH17p+oR3WuobSOQ1v+TgCx2FgYoVsc20MDLzxy czZ5KsBIh2nhzj3rBqPnOpx4Jom3oR5sbpXVUzNkShc0O+0AZijpqmR5BcS2UH17Jmhn pq1eUAFS3lK9izkmwi/r/uyQXoppv6uWk5xYhitXeZu/3tldfbRyHq83TaVA7l0DX6LQ dtjHoPKbSylUTZw1UpiszIlNjTYXTb8rHOZ54kMIOnQjFwXiPR9QO7Zu77oZ/HKw/qz+ flQMJJ1OtviiarBF3T1EOUD4IhEqji5J5S+opxak+8Xki0KrHQ4zCBBWhd2USLXhN4T3 cNvg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5302KRR4tn120VW8QwGSEUX2iP2Hlw97dv1xpLgnzToZNZ8A62JC MFVJc9P6cMTxc0FaBPZBa8s4N5EEJ4o2HmEtuh1Now== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyc4/reW+DPC/bssBVtuirUgRw9EkkYg+UssZIISLc4x+Y66tfz/McVn8HrENX/bU5IwNS/xaw3khKpaLWSwcs= X-Received: by 2002:a37:7a01:: with SMTP id v1mr18543891qkc.146.1595780144812; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 09:15:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202007261531.06QFVqZb027062@freefriends.org> <202007261535.06QFZvLg027250@freefriends.org> In-Reply-To: <202007261535.06QFZvLg027250@freefriends.org> From: Clem Cole Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 12:15:19 -0400 Message-ID: To: Aharon Robbins Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000abe95e05ab5a8413" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Troff to ps X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000abe95e05ab5a8413 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" psroff was part of the Transcript FWIW. It was the moral equi to the UCB command vtroff which did the call to troff -t ... | vcat BTW: I just peeked, on Disk 4 of Kirk's archives are the source to both ditroff and Adobe's transcript in the 'local' directory. I would suggest starting with transcript, copying to your system and typing 'make' That will allow the BSD troff stuff to 'just work' us pscat/psroff/enscript et al. This is how most sites that did not spring for a ditroff license worked with their Apple Laserwriters or later PS printers. Then if you want to do the same thing with ditroff, that should 'just compile' and build and you replace troff with ditroff. On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:38 AM wrote: > Some web searching turns up something called 'psroff' from the late 80s > or so that will convert C/A/T to postscript. Google 'psroff source' and > you should find something you can use. > > Arnold > > arnold@skeeve.com wrote: > > > Will Senn wrote: > > > > > My questions: > > > 1. Is there a troff to postcript conversion utility present in a stock > > > 2.11 system (or even patch level 4xx system)? > > > > Troff from that era was designed to drive the C/A/T phototypesetter. > > There were tools that converted from C/A/T to postscript but they > > were mostly commercial IIRC. > > > > > 2. Is there a way to build postscript directly on the system? > > > > Likely not. > > > > > 3. Is there an alternative modern way to get to ps or pdf output from > > > the nroff/troff that 2.11 has? > > > > I would recommend tar-ing up the doc and macros, moving them to Linux > > or other modern system, and using groff -C to create postscript/pdf. > > That really will be the fastest way. > > > > Arnold > --000000000000abe95e05ab5a8413 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
psroff=C2=A0was part of the Transcript FWIW.=C2=A0 It w= as the moral equi to the UCB command vtroff which=C2=A0did the call to trof= f -t ... | vcat

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I would su= ggest starting with transcript, copying to your system and typing 'make= '
That will=C2=A0allow the BSD troff stuff to 'just work= 9; us pscat/psroff/enscript et al.

This is how most s= ites that did not spring for a ditroff license worked with their Apple Lase= rwriters or later PS printers.

Then if you want to do = the same thing with ditroff, that should 'just compile' and build a= nd you replace troff with ditroff.

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:38 AM &l= t;arnold@skeeve.com<= /a>> wrote:
S= ome web searching turns up something called 'psroff' from the late = 80s
or so that will convert C/A/T to postscript. Google 'psroff source'= and
you should find something you can use.

Arnold

arnold@skeeve.com wrote:

> Will Senn <will.senn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > My questions:
> > 1. Is there a troff to postcript conversion utility present in a = stock
> > 2.11 system (or even patch level 4xx system)?
>
> Troff from that era was designed to drive the C/A/T phototypesetter. > There were tools that converted from C/A/T to postscript but they
> were mostly commercial IIRC.
>
> > 2. Is there a way to build postscript directly on the system?
>
> Likely not.
>
> > 3. Is there an alternative modern way to get to ps or pdf output = from
> > the nroff/troff that 2.11 has?
>
> I would recommend tar-ing up the doc and macros, moving them to Linux<= br> > or other modern system, and using groff -C to create postscript/pdf. > That really will be the fastest way.
>
> Arnold
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