From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 8b771fe3 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id ADA409B566; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 03:13:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE0E9B4F7; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 03:13:38 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="j/A2EboI"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A47249B772; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 03:13:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wr1-f50.google.com (mail-wr1-f50.google.com [209.85.221.50]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B56909B481 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 03:13:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wr1-f50.google.com with SMTP id f9so13878737wre.12 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:13:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=sB8+dvGMiFMC7HNPOPOj0AafIfhDEAxiaRVTZ0SWqwY=; b=j/A2EboItHuP7M9DuSUVo5q5UZ7JdEX1xpt7XlPHfPurZZODHFcQ5wqxzXI59c40so VM/HjdunLVOpi54KGniOYpeBEVPynTNWQHQPxVKVi7LKj5wiLyX8eY5an12+kjfQUztF OH3CJaZHyGFEPXLLBypIppTmWXdhDwHo9jzLc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=sB8+dvGMiFMC7HNPOPOj0AafIfhDEAxiaRVTZ0SWqwY=; b=SelA1kSLmFiReVfGKNPsJ/my8zx9xyMLE8SpyMVNtMkacFI2zR66JkmRb3hHb4O952 gZtMUqiF6l7zv4Mj/kz8sSWxJznnEWZYIltIIkxyEUrMeiliphqC0AE/I/rxxWZyniqS d9kH9Ij0c/vIVwdjFm+DDT4uG9vezkZPcGOehNuAp4uPHDq0zpDn8GKFsR5hxJT7Z+F7 0Y3kHyCVtNfzKa6YvVIDS1/t6+zMgxsCISEt5tWRt+UZxuLTnH35/2zGVYFrAqhcoIsx bG1ceH3l1f28DmiSEihUDO0R0m/unUVofev/ZKJLYupF2p+BtD663/6QxS7kIbdRYYjM sfuw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUeKUlrI4d9fcYWlsVXk7aoAhyuRNVZ1ecvQz8bYAz/jurs7PX7 P5XpsosM94rLMXJtthyYRPZjOrjkM90ASLAOxtDcgK+I X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx44zgizDAjTZ+MuiuC5nHUA9NgmzH+WNZIXecrHsmBTtsJUan2x3zD1ajv8r2sPCFZ0TR5rvPB4jTfL90OAvE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:104e:: with SMTP id c14mr394475wrx.71.1560273197086; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:13:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190611170254.2DB4018C09A@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <20190611170254.2DB4018C09A@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> From: Clem Cole Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:12:51 -0400 Message-ID: To: Noel Chiappa Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000aa54e2058b0f6990" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Montgomery's emacs X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000aa54e2058b0f6990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought much of the exptools went into something whos name was like the AT&T Unix Toolkit Library (that Summit maintained). It was subscription oriented (you paid per tool, but had an unlimited license for it). This was how Korn Shell for $2K and a few other things made it out of Bell - I think that eventually, ditroff was moved there instead of being a separate distribution. I've now forgotten many of the details - there was a build/make replacement IIRC that was there also, many of the Jerq tools and games like GBACA and some others were in there. Thinking about it much of the support for Jerq (68000) and Teletype version (BLIT/We32000) may have been in the Toolkit library. =E1=90=A7 On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:03 PM Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Mary Ann Horton > > > Warren's emacs would have been part of the Bell Labs 'exptools' > > (experimental tools) package ... it's possible that's what you have= . > > I don't think so; Warren had been a grad student in our group, and we got > it > on that basis. I'm pretty sure we didn't have termcap or any of that stuf= f. > > Noel > --000000000000aa54e2058b0f6990 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I thought much of the exptools went into something whos= name was like the AT&T Unix Toolkit Library (that Summit maintained).= =C2=A0 =C2=A0It was subscription oriented (you paid per tool, but had an un= limited license for it).=C2=A0 This was how Korn Shell for $2K and a few ot= her things made it out of Bell - I think that eventually, ditroff was moved= there instead of being a separate distribution. I've now forgotten man= y of the details - there was a build/make replacement IIRC that was there a= lso, many of the Jerq tools and games like GBACA and some others were in th= ere.=C2=A0 Thinking about it much of the support for Jerq (68000) and Telet= ype version (BLIT/We32000) may have been in the Toolkit library.
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On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:03 PM Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &= gt; From: Mary Ann Horton

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Warren's emacs would have been part of the Bell Labs= 'exptools'
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > (experimental tools) package ... it's possible that&= #39;s what you have.

I don't think so; Warren had been a grad student in our group, and we g= ot it
on that basis. I'm pretty sure we didn't have termcap or any of tha= t stuff.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Noel
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