From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id c7481c7e for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 14:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 98F749B9AF; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 00:42:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3D99491B; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 00:41:56 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="oL5uTIfp"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D83479491B; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 00:41:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wr1-f50.google.com (mail-wr1-f50.google.com [209.85.221.50]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A97A94803 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 00:41:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wr1-f50.google.com with SMTP id c2so21916576wrm.8 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 07:41:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=/3v6dtxmhQTUDr5ss7j3EdvuEZ1K9fSTj7BiwmK/RHo=; b=oL5uTIfpU46IhX6Mclihd7M07F4XQ0Ctc2dHBTqaEGdVBx75Ak1KtoIbYnm3sJvSYO bNspIEE3aYSb3mhDH0aeI1WNmMgco2Vc/MJpQo1ZsIX5SGJT5AZhnKFXGreVVIChlkvj 1izuCnnRMb+Wx6YLPGcztPCRsHmG6OghZkd2g= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=/3v6dtxmhQTUDr5ss7j3EdvuEZ1K9fSTj7BiwmK/RHo=; b=HE0PmsFxRgwQdfz5JFvNOIgMbdxQrvZVS8KtCS5HMi6Zb/UWi9c245axe0LKGc4aUu iCKivNuzYK5FS67QEBlQb3gxw1lzf1JV46WpNvlhyu3O7Zz+gTwUusMhvzyw7GmNEXlO DwaUynm2GFX7YegX4Nel6w4WMbjQ7WKliGqzIoTXG7v5dhGAIC/U2agiMvt+aspieaFO 5XIqqFoAJki7QpvtslT1ZMuKxHADFRasKu8GKP8SiAOFJgezrepceiNyAen2hKDbgaYQ 3N1F1zJpXV8yLEx7PGGmdyG1oG512V73ZCcdgdCjZj1Qm6F6cf4GqepypE0nq2Sj3VHq Whzg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVxTjlH1jCIRk0kStTaHko7xn0P7ya2dRKzy5WRLQFucdgHNMI9 qY3nknNrOtjPL3pSwHBQ3b4CPplblCykXfNnnHO1H16T X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzpm4JAmSVOM/iV3DkjpcYVQeUeqIGQaX0P0fhTRxrKZ2vlY+iV0Gb4lr0EQDZ0rX4dpF6vbbBxOfJxNUT5M40= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:56cb:: with SMTP id m11mr43058129wrw.255.1563374512891; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 07:41:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8235a090-c48a-4587-8974-23305233bc33@PU1APC01FT026.eop-APC01.prod.protection.outlook.com> <3CFC8159-08DD-4647-8CEF-FE8D196AB3C9@ccc.com> <610F6FCB-F24D-4788-953A-83E0E6456622@ccc.com> <017d16e0-3a7d-b3e7-29b8-8a454d78463f@e-bbes.com> <201907170810.x6H8AELx031974@freefriends.org> <46FC947C-F150-4835-A858-3EE05A394A6A@alchemistowl.org> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 10:41:27 -0400 Message-ID: To: Ben Greenfield Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007e0329058de17ecc" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000007e0329058de17ecc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 8:39 AM Ben Greenfield via TUHS < tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org> wrote: > > I know that it didn=E2=80=99t run Unix but I believe Nixdorf Computer was= the > large computer company at that time. > Both Nixdorf and Siemens were heavy into UNIX. Both were founders of OSF. Nixdorf OEM'ed a couple of machines from US firms, as well as making their own. Siemens and Philips both trended to make their own systems. IIRC Philips was mostly in the AT&T Camp at the time. Olivetti was definitely since one of the original 386 systems AT&T tried to sell was their PC (in fact was one of systems ISC used for the original 386 UNIX port - supplied by AT&T). --0000000000007e0329058de17ecc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 8:39= AM Ben Greenfield via TUHS <tuh= s@minnie.tuhs.org> wrote:

I know that = it didn=E2=80=99t run Unix but I believe Nixdorf Computer was the large com= puter company at that time.
Both Nixdorf a= nd Siemens were heavy into UNIX.=C2=A0 Both were founders of OSF. =C2=A0 Ni= xdorf OEM'ed a couple of machines from US firms, as well as making thei= r own. =C2=A0 Siemens and Philips both trended to make their own systems. = =C2=A0 IIRC Philips was mostly in the AT&T Camp at the time.=C2=A0 Oliv= etti was definitely since one of the original 386 systems AT&T tried to= sell was their PC (in fact was one of systems ISC used for the original 38= 6 UNIX port - supplied by AT&T).
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