Henry -- most people that I am aware used the original Fortran-IV version since that was the Lingua-Franca. The Pascal version was a few years later, and frankly other than to read the book, I personally never ran the results from them. But I can say I did use the original Fortran version under VMS back in the day. As bwk says in the Pascal edition, it was actually a difficult thing to do because Pascal lacked many features that really made it uniform across implementations, portable between systems themselves, and as a reasonable systems programming language. See: Why Pascal is Not My Favorite Programming Language Clem ᐧ On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 12:44 AM Henry Bent wrote: > Thank you, Clem. I am working on getting the tools running in DOSBox, > which seemed most straightforward. > > The Byte article (the scan of which I am very grateful for; not having to > go trawling through the stacks at the Oberlin College library is always a > plus) claims that the tools have been implemented on: > > ACOS > Amdahl > Apollo > AN/UYK > Burroughs > CDC > Cray > Data General > DEC > FACOM > GEC > HP > HITAC > Honeywell > IBM > Intel > Interdata > Modcomp > Multics > NCR > Perkin-Elmer > Prime > Rolm > SEL > Tandem > Univac > Wang > Xerox > CP/M Machines > MS/DOS Machines > UNIX Machines > > Which is quite the list; I've never even heard of a few of those! Based > on the files in the UNIX Archive, am I to assume that most of those ports > took advantage of a native Pascal compiler? That's how I'm planning to > bring the tools up on my local RT-11 machine. > > -Henry > > On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 at 19:34, Clem Cole wrote: > >> https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Applications/Software_Tools/ >> ᐧ >> >> On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 5:25 PM Henry Bent wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 at 17:17, Deborah Scherrer < >>> dscherrer@solar.stanford.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> All you folks revisiting the Software Tools should remember that there >>>> was an entire movement around the first book, based at Lawrence Berkeley >>>> Lab. The Software Tools group, an offshoot of Usenix, had about 2000 >>>> members. We created an almost-entire Unix environment based on a virtual >>>> operating system that we designed, inspired of course by Kernighan's >>>> ideas. The collection was ported to over 50 operating systems, including >>>> some without file systems. This is all still freely available, and stored >>>> with the Unix archives. >>>> >>> Could you provide a link to said environment, and suggest what sort of >>> machines it might have run on? I probably have something here that will do >>> it, and I am very interested. >>> >>> -Henry >>> >>> >>>> On 12/1/21 12:59 PM, Clem Cole wrote: >>>> >>>> Arnold -- sounds fun. Thank you!!! I'll add it to my growing pile of >>>> things I want to play with at some point. I too had a wonderful childhood >>>> experience with the SW tools. Somebody had a number of them running on a >>>> VMS box when all we had was the VMS Fortran compiler, no C yet. >>>> >>>> I am curious why did you decide to use byacc? I would have thought in >>>> a desire to modernize and make it more available on a modern system -- was >>>> there something in byacc that could not be done easily in bison? To be >>>> honest, I had thought Robert Corbett did them both and bison was the >>>> successor to byacc, but I'm not a compiler guy - so I'm suspecting that >>>> there must be a difference/reason. As I said, this is purely curiosity -- >>>> an educational opportunity. >>>> >>>> Thanks again, >>>> Clem >>>> ᐧ >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 3:41 PM Arnold Robbins >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi All. >>>>> >>>>> Mainly for fun (sic), I decided to revive the Ratfor (Rational >>>>> Fortran) preprocessor. Please see: >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/arnoldrobbins/ratfor >>>>> >>>>> I started with the V6 code, then added the V7, V8 and V10 versions >>>>> on top of it. Each one has its own branch so that you can look >>>>> at the original code, if you wish. The man page and the paper from >>>>> the V7 manual are also included. >>>>> >>>>> Starting with the Tenth Edition version, I set about to modernize >>>>> the code and get it to compile and run on a modern-day system. >>>>> (ANSI style declarations and function headers, modern include files, >>>>> use of getopt, and most importantly, correct use of Yacc yyval and >>>>> yylval variables.) >>>>> >>>>> You will need Berkely Yacc installed as byacc in order to build it. >>>>> >>>>> I have only touch-tested it, but so far it seems OK. 'make' runs in >>>>> like 2 >>>>> seconds, really quick. On my Ubuntu Linux systems, it compiles with >>>>> no warnings. >>>>> >>>>> I hope to eventually add a test suite also, if I can steal some time. >>>>> >>>>> Before anyone asks, no, I don't think anybody today has any real use >>>>> for it. This was simply "for fun", and because Ratfor has a soft >>>>> spot in my heart. "Software Tools" was, for me, the most influential >>>>> programming book that I ever read. I don't think there's a better >>>>> book to convey the "zen" of Unix. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Arnold >>>>> >>>>