From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 13384 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2020 17:29:27 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Nov 2020 17:29:27 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1AC449CC1F; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 03:29:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C31C94490; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 03:28:54 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="YKmRIGn4"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 38FE594490; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 03:28:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f178.google.com (mail-qt1-f178.google.com [209.85.160.178]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15D5F93DAD for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 03:28:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f178.google.com with SMTP id f93so7619730qtb.10 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2020 09:28:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=70Rc2Y4ji6NQ6HD4VrreA1omIpU0yGSpIXmSJ+x718A=; b=YKmRIGn4XBngQyVwwWrN1/cACB9FroRyMiCul3JdcK11R04twB3CLpgu4/H1LAETAt kTDwvAr5XPIZBV7FD8Cp3lsCWYcGb0GBrpWo2t5UFxX2Zqmm0P+fIt823Y1R2QS9euQY keo61Ou3knZpz0SR3HHOaIeGdLKiuvhSILNm0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=70Rc2Y4ji6NQ6HD4VrreA1omIpU0yGSpIXmSJ+x718A=; b=W0pGPXefuf/qzwpbF52iKiLhaoqvTmAb1KbSJZGtcgH1JI0AiyHbtWk6WMQyGHw2vf aNoppXDfMObqs1076ev6LtF2aECk8SUD/eiFxlaGPaj8BEU8yQ2UvRfcTBJ6UdTcy0gp UmgTwpvKelXk/zDwb/koLmAxWnpYpcyxoiqfLuZsz0Zt5hNdGmrP2/TrJK55Vx66mWty dXWXOh6SBJwflt2H6uu/q0O3ZzT/CA6HzQg/XrAIhwi4uD6plKxbAREmVJ6tvJFhQr8E 7qd3BKWqF1N5KMkRdq9INQhWnH+SJWD/94lOQTIGBEVQTbs4++248LwlTxV1yaYcLf+P UGag== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533udIklyaNhOF1wYpz1GEZsPig46GFQDs0iA3GwTsXkfgwI10Re ETDMVceTDEZ1I/9ozWQAQF5tQq2StDi8Mto/FzK8+qhUrV4u5jW6as0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxYDzMUXRfSGoyx1fy3ARejM7P3Keji/zTtSsmxJiKXgpBv8RfVWTnT/mlA1+mXaurJGhL/SiFamD2fHLs41/8= X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:50:: with SMTP id y16mr17219603qtw.119.1605893328811; Fri, 20 Nov 2020 09:28:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1837.1605826445@hop.toad.com> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 12:28:23 -0500 Message-ID: To: Mary Ann Horton Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000694b4005b48d2dde" Subject: Re: [TUHS] UNIX NEWS and ; login: archives, particularly from 1975-1978 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000694b4005b48d2dde Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Some, the original ones that were printed and bound have not been scanned. The directory: Publications is where to start. Some of the paper are online after scanning on a case by case basis. Talk to Casey if there is a specific request, although since the Berkeley office is going to close in about 2 weeks, I don't expect they can do much for a bit. FYI: The last printed edition of *;login* went to bed last week and I believe mailed shortly thereafter. It will be electronic from now on. Clem On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 12:15 PM Mary Ann Horton wrote: > John, > > Does Usenix have online proceedings of the technical conferences from > the 1980s? I can't find them. > > Thanks, > > Mary Ann > > On 11/19/20 2:54 PM, John Gilmore wrote: > > While cleaning up a few shelves of old USENIX proceedings, I found a > > mysterious manila envelope full of xeroxed copies of all the original > > UNIX NEWS newsletters from 1975 thru 1977. It was renamed to ;login: > > in 1977 and has continued publication to this day. The envelope also > > contained ;login: issues v2n6 thru v3n8 (1977-1978). > > > > I scanned those all in today and put them up on my website, here: > > > > http://www.toad.com/early-usenix-newsletters/ > > > > These have not been OCR'd, and many of the pages were rotated by 90 > > degrees in the original publication, to fit two pages of typewritten > > correspondence (or recipient address lists) into one page of newsletter. > > Still, in a quick web search I was unable to find copies of these > > anywhere else, so I invested a few hours to scan them in and post them > > for historical interest. As an example, Sixth Edition (v6) UNIX was > > announced in issue number 1. > > > > These are all free to publish nowadays. USENIX was one of the first > > technical organizations to establish an Open Access policy for its > > publications, a step which distinguishes them from ACM and many academic > > publishers who favor revenue for themselves over the progress of > > science. (I voted for this policy decades ago when I was a USENIX board > > member.) This page, for example, says: > > > > > https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity20/presentation/schwarz > > > > "USENIX is committed to Open Access to the research presented at our > > events. Papers and proceedings are freely available to everyone once > > the event begins. Any video, audio, and/or slides that are posted > > after the event are also free and open to everyone." > > > > The ;login: archives at USENIX.org are complete from October 1997 to > today: > > > > https://www.usenix.org/publications/login > > > > Also, most but not all issues of ;login: from 1983 to 1997 have been > > scanned by USENIX and uploaded to the Internet Archive here: > > > > https://archive.org/details/usenix-login?&sort=date > > > > The USENIX Association apparently has paper copies of the stuff I > > scanned in today, but they are still trying to locate ;login: issues > > from 1979 and parts of 1980 and 1981. In addition, they are backlogged > > on scanning in their old materials (including copies of ;login: between > > 1978/09 and 1983/02). If you have old copies of ;login: that you don't > > see visible in these places, please scan them, or offer them to USENIX. > > > > Also, if you have old proceedings of USENIX conferences, there are still > > three that the USENIX staff do not have any copy of: > > > > XFree86 Technical Conference > > > https://www.usenix.org/legacy/publications/library/proceedings/xfree86/ > > 2001-11-08 > > > > 5th Annual Linux Showcase & Conference > > > https://www.usenix.org/legacy/publications/library/proceedings/als01/tech.html > > 2001-11-08 > > > > WORLDS '04 > > https://www.usenix.org/legacy/events/worlds04/tech/ > > 2004-12-05 > > > > If you have any of these three, please let know. They > > also lack about twenty more for which they have posted the academic > > papers, but don't have the covers or front-matter, so if you have other > > proceedings from between 1989 and 2004 that you'd be willing to part > > with or scan, also let them know. Thanks! > > > > John > > > --000000000000694b4005b48d2dde Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Some,=C2=A0 the original ones that were printed and bou= nd have not been scanned.=C2=A0The directory: Publications is where to start.=C2=A0 Some of the pa= per are online after scanning on a case by case basis.=C2=A0 Talk to Casey = if there is a specific request, although since the Berkeley office is going= to close in about 2 weeks, I don't expect they can do much for a bit.= =C2=A0 FYI:=C2=A0 The last printed edition of ;login went to bed las= t week and I believe mailed shortly thereafter.=C2=A0 It will be electronic= from now on.=C2=A0

Clem

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020= at 12:15 PM Mary Ann Horton <mah@mhorton.net> wrote:
John,

Does Usenix have online proceedings of the technical conferences from
the 1980s?=C2=A0 I can't find them.

Thanks,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Mary Ann

On 11/19/20 2:54 PM, John Gilmore wrote:
> While cleaning up a few shelves of old USENIX proceedings, I found a > mysterious manila envelope full of xeroxed copies of all the original<= br> > UNIX NEWS newsletters from 1975 thru 1977.=C2=A0 It was renamed to ;lo= gin:
> in 1977 and has continued publication to this day.=C2=A0 The envelope = also
> contained ;login: issues v2n6 thru v3n8 (1977-1978).
>
> I scanned those all in today and put them up on my website, here:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://www.toad.com/early-usenix-news= letters/
>
> These have not been OCR'd, and many of the pages were rotated by 9= 0
> degrees in the original publication, to fit two pages of typewritten > correspondence (or recipient address lists) into one page of newslette= r.
> Still, in a quick web search I was unable to find copies of these
> anywhere else, so I invested a few hours to scan them in and post them=
> for historical interest.=C2=A0 As an example, Sixth Edition (v6) UNIX = was
> announced in issue number 1.
>
> These are all free to publish nowadays.=C2=A0 USENIX was one of the fi= rst
> technical organizations to establish an Open Access policy for its
> publications, a step which distinguishes them from ACM and many academ= ic
> publishers who favor revenue for themselves over the progress of
> science.=C2=A0 (I voted for this policy decades ago when I was a USENI= X board
> member.)=C2=A0 This page, for example, says:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www= .usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity20/presentation/schwarz
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "USENIX is committed to Open Access to the research = presented at our
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 events. Papers and proceedings are freely available to ev= eryone once
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the event begins. Any video, audio, and/or slides that ar= e posted
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 after the event are also free and open to everyone."=
>
> The ;login: archives at USENIX.org are complete from October 1997 to t= oday:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www.usenix.org/publications/login=
>
> Also, most but not all issues of ;login: from 1983 to 1997 have been > scanned by USENIX and uploaded to the Internet Archive here:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://archive.org/detai= ls/usenix-login?&sort=3Ddate
>
> The USENIX Association apparently has paper copies of the stuff I
> scanned in today, but they are still trying to locate ;login: issues > from 1979 and parts of 1980 and 1981.=C2=A0 In addition, they are back= logged
> on scanning in their old materials (including copies of ;login: betwee= n
> 1978/09 and 1983/02).=C2=A0 If you have old copies of ;login: that you= don't
> see visible in these places, please scan them, or offer them to USENIX= .
>
> Also, if you have old proceedings of USENIX conferences, there are sti= ll
> three that the USENIX staff do not have any copy of:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 XFree86 Technical Conference
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www= .usenix.org/legacy/publications/library/proceedings/xfree86/
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 2001-11-08
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 5th Annual Linux Showcase & Conference
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 http= s://www.usenix.org/legacy/publications/library/proceedings/als01/tech.html<= /a>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 2001-11-08
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 WORLDS '04
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www.usenix.org/legacy/e= vents/worlds04/tech/
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 2004-12-05
>
> If you have any of these three, please let <info@usenix.org> know.=C2=A0 They
> also lack about twenty more for which they have posted the academic > papers, but don't have the covers or front-matter, so if you have = other
> proceedings from between 1989 and 2004 that you'd be willing to pa= rt
> with or scan, also let them know.=C2=A0 Thanks!
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0John
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
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