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From: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: DG UNIX History
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 14:36:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC20D2PM8OVgoHLf96K-u4w2Dh02ELp-6vnczTtJKGnWowEhrg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221112183623.GO652@mcvoy.com>

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To be honest, I've forgotten many (most) of the details.  But that sounds
about right.  As I remember it, it was like SunOS.  The key point was that
the kernel only had one view of the memory system period, no FS
buffer cache etc...which was a departure from many of the traditional UNIX
implementations.    IIRC they did not support BSD's mmap -- but check the
SVR3 docs to be sure -- they had the SVR3 user interfaces but none of the
BSD ones.  They did support the System V shared memory, however.  I do seem
to remember there was something funny in the driver interfaces, it was just
like UNIX only different, and that causes some heartache - but it was
fairly straightforward to move a DMA driver like getting a VME Xylogics
tape controller to work, but it took a little tweaking.  I've forgotten
exactly why that was --  it's been a long time ago.

Clem
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On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 1:36 PM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 01:04:30PM -0500, Clem Cole wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 11:52 AM <arnold@skeeve.com> wrote:
> > > DG-UX was a pretty generic SVR3
> > >
> > User space was generic.   But the SVR3/88K kernel was a heavy rewrite.
> >  LCC did a lot of work with DG adding stuff too it -- it was very well
> done
> > by the DG team in NC.   The memory and FS was well integrated.
>
> So read()/write()/mmap() all shared the same cache like SunOS?  In SunOS
> the
> only things not in the page cache were directories and inodes.  All data
> pages had one, and only one, place to be (ZFS broke this in Solaris,
> which has always blown my mind).
> --
> ---
> Larry McVoy           Retired to fishing
> http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-12 19:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-12 15:54 [TUHS] " Clem Cole
2022-11-12 16:09 ` [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
2022-11-12 16:52 ` arnold
2022-11-12 17:05   ` Larry McVoy
2022-11-12 17:09   ` Miod Vallat
2022-11-12 17:12     ` Warner Losh
2022-11-12 17:39     ` arnold
2022-11-12 17:13   ` David Barto
2022-11-12 17:37   ` Brad Spencer
2022-11-12 18:04   ` Clem Cole
2022-11-12 18:36     ` Larry McVoy
2022-11-12 19:36       ` Clem Cole [this message]
2022-11-13  1:56         ` Larry McVoy
2022-11-12 19:16 ` Dave Horsfall
2022-11-12 19:31   ` Clem Cole
2022-11-14 11:44 arnold
2022-11-14 22:11 Paul Ruizendaal
2022-11-14 22:31 ` Clem Cole
2022-11-14 23:54   ` Warner Losh
2022-11-15  6:03     ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-11-15 15:11       ` Larry McVoy
2022-11-15 15:48         ` Bakul Shah
2022-11-15 17:47       ` Warner Losh
2022-11-15  1:21   ` Stuff Received

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