From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17698 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2023 21:46:29 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Dec 2023 21:46:29 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF1D42210; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 07:46:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ot1-x32d.google.com (mail-ot1-x32d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::32d]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F9834220F for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 07:46:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ot1-x32d.google.com with SMTP id 46e09a7af769-6d9dadc3dc0so2727100a34.1 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2023 13:46:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; t=1702244769; x=1702849569; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=IiPjsm6jUNfULAu0Nuoib0O0C930xgk35xdFEnoNR48=; b=p9hFQEaCF9hE+IuB3a+28Eq/G5uYUQvqYHth2J9Rsi2RM13UUru92IwOaBOExJ6+ts 5PCXjpKQY492LvljqSDZAu00I3ldMP40UAlDL2vneL+g7KINAU5c/hGhyMjUNiNB2p5l +085J+IFdVnvkOC38dIojZEnh2eLcRyA7Trrk= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1702244769; x=1702849569; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=IiPjsm6jUNfULAu0Nuoib0O0C930xgk35xdFEnoNR48=; b=ZX8eGKUvZho/nJIp7xrpFPCl4DvDqOjs/mQAT8cH087j4zqR2k8rQSv8Dg2fuBS4Nh we/2xbSN4Vx+xJgUNgORtfRD08abDFAIkf/8ftmAlGGO05ryl+tJBIiFhBb4aGKCZj9j 9zfPIKDqZx37SYXRVLb3f3Pe2CRiJ/XlO3ricQYpAAzhM+DZkFaPFHnH5OHohB1jRjB4 YtYfPBADLZHJFo2hpaidHIregGcXP8thridATDeOA3juzIw8FbhksXWtFk2X2iRz8b17 Q+vfclq97lbQuXkBIYGbJ/bry5frryFJ0C2DiIhDHMyZqCHX48t3cUGFUgivOXw6Mq4c OTaA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyfZDnA5Mf0gy+vI2XcU4xrbHbLt2bDx2oPZbsa026dbuPcJX+o 1yFhw6yyUTgFgCds1Csy8aVZbE+Sdks4wQ+XVfx7Gg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF60WKaALQunlz56Thtu0F/4npNj2G4LZJONgxQCFeGyUxXyCqAM7zUydxXHK4dvEcH/Hm009KA6HgwGcflx8Q= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6c42:0:b0:6d9:e320:2316 with SMTP id g2-20020a9d6c42000000b006d9e3202316mr4167168otq.0.1702244769220; Sun, 10 Dec 2023 13:46:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2023 16:45:32 -0500 Message-ID: To: segaloco Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ca6305060c2ebe04" Message-ID-Hash: FKHA5EG4BOAXT2CACDPDDPF7Q6OUX2LF X-Message-ID-Hash: FKHA5EG4BOAXT2CACDPDDPF7Q6OUX2LF X-MailFrom: clemc@ccc.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Some Wiki Documentation of...Documentation List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000ca6305060c2ebe04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt - this is wonderful work. Thank you. Clem =E1=90=A7 On Sat, Dec 9, 2023 at 10:34=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS w= rote: > After much saying I would and never getting around to it, I've finally > started filling out a bit of documentation on the various UNIX manuals I'= ve > been tracking down, fleshing out history around, tracing bibliographic > references though, etc etc. > > https://wiki.tuhs.org/doku.php?id=3Dpublications:manuals > > Thus far I've got the research and CB pages filled out from available > information, and PWB/commercial up through about '85-'86, give or take so= me > things. I apologize in advance if I've omitted your favorite piece of > trivia or got something wrong, please suggest corrections in any areas > needing them, or even better, a Wiki is a communal resource so with > Warren's OK, I'm sure you can also make contributions. > > Most of the pictures are from my own library, although I've added a few > others from thing around the net. There are links to various documents > covered, TUHS content where most appropriate, a few archive.org and > bitsavers links here and there. I don't intend to include links to any > documents after System V's initial 1983 run, just pictures of covers for > ease of identification. > > I've already mentioned a few times but I highly encourage contributions. > I intend to do another round at this sometime soon and round out at least > the BSD stuff and later System V. If anyone else has photographs or > documents they think should be in these articles and you don't want to do > the Wiki part yourself, feel free to send me stuff and I'll make sure it > gets put up there. > > Finally, some reflection on the path here. "What was UNIX System IV" was > one of those questions that plagued my mind for a long time, much before = I > knew much else about the history of UNIX. Not a crucial question by any > means, but it was one of those little mysteries I always wanted to know > more about, which is what then lead me to trying to find Release 4.0 > documents and all that. Of course, that then lead to the rabbit hole of > continuing to turn stuff up, I never imagined I'd actually be successful = in > trying to turn up more info on that version, let alone then continuing to > find little pieces of history and slot in missing parts of stories. Alon= g > the way I've learned more about this darn operating system than I ever > intended on learning and now feel net gain in several areas of my study. > Plus, all this Bell System proximity is largely responsible for my > interests in telephony as of late, and may come full circle in the gear I > got for telephone experiments helping me resurrect this poor UNIX PC I've > got sitting on the floor right now. I don't know what I would've been > doing with so much of my free time the past few years otherwise, especial= ly > these colder months. > > Hope folks enjoy the commentary! > > - Matt G. > > P.S. Combing over things for this, I've found a few more pieces of the > UNIX/TS puzzle. The details are in the Release 3.0 section of the > PWB/Commerial page linked above. Short of it is there are some interesti= ng > "leaks" of the name "UNIX/TS" into Release 3.0 documentation, > inconsistently between the sources on the UNIX tree and the physical > document I recently obtained. > --000000000000ca6305060c2ebe04 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Matt - this is wonderful work.=C2=A0 Thank you.
Clem
=E1=90=A7

On Sat, Dec 9, 2023 at 10:34=E2=80=AFPM= segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org&g= t; wrote:
After = much saying I would and never getting around to it, I've finally starte= d filling out a bit of documentation on the various UNIX manuals I've b= een tracking down, fleshing out history around, tracing bibliographic refer= ences though, etc etc.

https://wiki.tuhs.org/doku.php?id=3Dpublicat= ions:manuals

Thus far I've got the research and CB pages filled out from available i= nformation, and PWB/commercial up through about '85-'86, give or ta= ke some things.=C2=A0 I apologize in advance if I've omitted your favor= ite piece of trivia or got something wrong, please suggest corrections in a= ny areas needing them, or even better, a Wiki is a communal resource so wit= h Warren's OK, I'm sure you can also make contributions.

Most of the pictures are from my own library, although I've added a few= others from thing around the net.=C2=A0 There are links to various documen= ts covered, TUHS content where most appropriate, a few archive.org and bitsave= rs links here and there.=C2=A0 I don't intend to include links to any d= ocuments after System V's initial 1983 run, just pictures of covers for= ease of identification.

I've already mentioned a few times but I highly encourage contributions= .=C2=A0 I intend to do another round at this sometime soon and round out at= least the BSD stuff and later System V.=C2=A0 If anyone else has photograp= hs or documents they think should be in these articles and you don't wa= nt to do the Wiki part yourself, feel free to send me stuff and I'll ma= ke sure it gets put up there.

Finally, some reflection on the path here.=C2=A0 "What was UNIX System= IV" was one of those questions that plagued my mind for a long time, = much before I knew much else about the history of UNIX.=C2=A0 Not a crucial= question by any means, but it was one of those little mysteries I always w= anted to know more about, which is what then lead me to trying to find Rele= ase 4.0 documents and all that.=C2=A0 Of course, that then lead to the rabb= it hole of continuing to turn stuff up, I never imagined I'd actually b= e successful in trying to turn up more info on that version, let alone then= continuing to find little pieces of history and slot in missing parts of s= tories.=C2=A0 Along the way I've learned more about this darn operating= system than I ever intended on learning and now feel net gain in several a= reas of my study.=C2=A0 Plus, all this Bell System proximity is largely res= ponsible for my interests in telephony as of late, and may come full circle= in the gear I got for telephone experiments helping me resurrect this poor= UNIX PC I've got sitting on the floor right now.=C2=A0 I don't kno= w what I would've been doing with so much of my free time the past few = years otherwise, especially these colder months.

Hope folks enjoy the commentary!

- Matt G.

P.S. Combing over things for this, I've found a few more pieces of the = UNIX/TS puzzle.=C2=A0 The details are in the Release 3.0 section of the PWB= /Commerial page linked above.=C2=A0 Short of it is there are some interesti= ng "leaks" of the name "UNIX/TS" into Release 3.0 docum= entation, inconsistently between the sources on the UNIX tree and the physi= cal document I recently obtained.
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