From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3286 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2023 20:02:00 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 8 Feb 2023 20:02:00 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F7440A7B; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 06:01:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-f54.google.com (mail-vs1-f54.google.com [209.85.217.54]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 667A140A79 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 06:01:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-f54.google.com with SMTP id m1so19318849vst.7 for ; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 12:01:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=nw0m+7gljPTuzw8Z1ZNQFg33FJW8xQYCYU36+Q3RvGc=; b=WZ+F1qOtiFyWA9uBhsueGJaM9JVs9gu17qr2fZm9sNd0Y5GlzxaHpHulXAGxQZE/sn OffDGVLlCLXzkYjOsyNGnKFyqmWuurTFuu/+7YqA5kUBX1FAPwDFnGi8D1S+TDwhl0X9 zLaJX8WzdnWoGWvIcMuEcHAv148/MuHEx4Se0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=nw0m+7gljPTuzw8Z1ZNQFg33FJW8xQYCYU36+Q3RvGc=; b=UEQWSCqShAp5HIQrAZge8bb1nr7Be3MnSmiLImjKfPuxippUsLWeByP/6yUQOAtjJ/ 00k2gisusCMRX+jrwTdsYdTTxabJrufy8M4V622nfnzlyFS/NzKQ9hOolKD79aki/kMP I7ZCyQ7lAOzSX2mwOIp1B/Ymphz2ehtY6xAdsNm6JN4g5PDoYSJbp8bYKwOTB5+QsUdj x2zf7pmk6/nPu6fiDKhhZna3vstgFE+cAwB06VrS400PYe0fXuUaX3djMD9XCkdkCO+7 TYulk7D8Q7KyhDVG332yovmNJ8GX9HkPgYdwX3e85HWbZkKZ67m1Km+7s6rtjc8r4vF3 LwEA== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKXyhn8yUbjopVSIpO58ZgudWyd0zjKn0uNHlLkMW3CtrSs5V90V XKasAt/mRRmqEEKZ3QlHQE8yuL61LR4EA0XUvdbiLw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set8VEkaA8q+pGBTrU7eM+oT/PTT5i1M+TUIStqo+FpUsPHWikCHWppa+JJE2ZYjU8EF2ZpR0m6WfnVR1uyTzMw4= X-Received: by 2002:a67:cb9e:0:b0:3f7:211b:daa1 with SMTP id h30-20020a67cb9e000000b003f7211bdaa1mr1987725vsl.46.1675886432440; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 12:00:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2023 15:00:06 -0500 Message-ID: To: Will Senn Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007d6cb805f435b7bb" Message-ID-Hash: ZHXHKMRJPDRN42YGQK4SG4FYGYWBPK6Q X-Message-ID-Hash: ZHXHKMRJPDRN42YGQK4SG4FYGYWBPK6Q X-MailFrom: clemc@ccc.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: history of community help for unix users everywhere List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000007d6cb805f435b7bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable BTW: dates for this is starting in the early-mid 1970s for ArpaNet/UNIX News/USENIX, V7 arrives 79, and Truscott does his talk I believe winter 1980. =E1=90=A7 On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 2:57 PM Clem Cole wrote: > Will, > > For those of us outside of BTL, i.e. the Academic users, "Unix News" was > created - which became ';login" - We started to meet informally at a few > universities and talk to each other. Those of us on the ArpaNet that > email/FTP and the like, started to share patches - but mostly things were > shared when we got together via magtape. When they were held in NYC, we > might be lucky and someone from Research might come (and even accidentall= y > spill a few bits on the floor that mix fix something). Eventually, USENI= X > was formed, and we met twice a year formally. That was so popular, USENIX > started having specialty conferences such as the one for C and C++, LISA, > Networking, Linux and Free Software, etc. Similarly, with V7, UUCP was > given to use a USENET was started by Tom Truscott and his famous > "auto-dialler" that he hacked with a 12v relay, a DR-11C and described at > the Bolder USENIX conference. Netnews was not far behind - which sadly > became net.noise when the signal-to-noise ratio disappeared. > > Clem > =E1=90=A7 > --0000000000007d6cb805f435b7bb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
BTW: dates for this is starting in the early-mid 1970s = for ArpaNet/UNIX News/USENIX,=C2=A0 V7 arrives 79, and Truscott does his ta= lk I believe winter 1980.
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For those=C2=A0of us outside = of BTL, i.e. the Academic users, "Unix News" was created - which = became ';login" - We started to meet informally at a few universit= ies and talk to=C2=A0each other.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Those of us on the ArpaNet tha= t email/FTP and the like, started to share patches - but mostly things were= shared when we got together via magtape. When they were held in NYC, we mi= ght be lucky and someone from Research might come (and even accidentally sp= ill a few bits on the floor that mix fix something).=C2=A0 Eventually, USEN= IX was formed, and we met twice a year formally. That was so popular, USENI= X started having specialty conferences such as the one for C and C++, LISA,= Networking, Linux and Free Software, etc. Similarly, with V7, UUCP was giv= en to use a USENET was started by Tom Truscott and his famous "auto-di= aller" that he hacked with=C2=A0a 12v relay, a DR-11C and described at= the Bolder USENIX conference.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Netnews was not far behind - whi= ch sadly became net.noise when the signal-to-noise ratio disappeared.
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