From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 82ad873c for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2020 16:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2D62E9CC10; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 02:17:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0BC9CC07; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 02:17:01 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="XSZ6VM0p"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 416BC9CC07; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 02:16:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qv1-f53.google.com (mail-qv1-f53.google.com [209.85.219.53]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B40039CB14 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 02:16:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qv1-f53.google.com with SMTP id s7so1346220qvn.8 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2020 08:16:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=5ZB4Am5jwjrRehllUEQ5qRoU2//lQHcZs6a1fUvv1Z4=; b=XSZ6VM0pmrsj3PxqxPKVhkltbbCEkTCXBFtZKO+IVQY0X1xxWnjAxiMY60deJBW5FW WIh0qXppBHRHODErztzNGAN7ohisF+K1zpF4uyQY9IjGavA1fmvjYzZEzDrUO5A5EqUW 7gZNeloDV08dwsdeIqR8LpUxqBUGx8czNi15k= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5ZB4Am5jwjrRehllUEQ5qRoU2//lQHcZs6a1fUvv1Z4=; b=fq/S8S21EtCLdhBc2lSy62hyJXQlEdfHICkfq9JE+EDQ86tWm1mQvL6wUbk6qhO7ao 9RU2DJ9CSxL7xSFY4/Dl/h3rfAzwXb0hOkZifMgAJk0z8xnHns0tJ780VsG3N9TFzClC og7AwTGZfqmyAJ9grD4Tk0P4si1yKpEaQaR1fpM2Cf1khtHULOem6twRXwQJn5tKVUu2 nWpuyFSJpuT38hHQyZa+tu+ApNeS1KeF1amfpOwmaPXqQHIozRt+Lh3OujN850IQSezI Ejw0EcP10vBJvwTULxwerFiv5I+FXxsF8LExv5fdHBM4tCCCdFuHVYKiFVU+puECUick ZNxQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWR3CKuSXtVqr17TdjoU8lT5s3V/5WHedNinISysK8LK9iTBMJW SPxZcvaxqLHkLbU+u3YDLxC8v8Z+kALVM6xBtTFKbWSEktg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxAgWWRWijeSHlxmgl/tvJB/1se9Vzd6bgExHvxQhLp4rt034y3vnlA21tMRMt8fN9ZAy9DDG8zHXag7Vz3e+A= X-Received: by 2002:ad4:5304:: with SMTP id y4mr32498711qvr.56.1580919416642; Wed, 05 Feb 2020 08:16:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9c507ef665851fd21ecdf0e23136dc86@firemail.de> <1ippPk-8PE-00@marmaro.de> <1iqMuL-1zK-00@marmaro.de> <20200204094018.661e76717f7f475e6cb53e75@sjmulder.nl> <20200204201453.ebeaabon26vbgfle@localhost.localdomain> <202002050845.0158jDOu024559@freefriends.org> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 11:16:30 -0500 Message-ID: To: Arthur Krewat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003f7783059dd67ccf" Subject: Re: [TUHS] pronouncing *nix formulas X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000003f7783059dd67ccf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable definitely a diminutive term. On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 11:11 AM Arthur Krewat wrote: > Bunch of guys at Computer Graphics Lab (at New York Institute of > Technology) back in the 80's used to call it "f-suck". > > > > On 2/5/2020 8:35 AM, Clem cole wrote: > > FWIW. When it was written, Ted and I used pronounced it as =E2=80=9Cfis= k=E2=80=9D > (rhymes with =E2=80=9Cdisk=E2=80=9D), but F. S. C. K. was always acceptab= le to my ears. I > admit I smiled one time when I heard some one call it =E2=80=9Cf-sick=E2= =80=9D but that was > not considered the proper pronunciation. > > > > Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not > quite. > > > >> On Feb 5, 2020, at 3:45 AM, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: > >> > >> "G. Branden Robinson" wrote: > >> > >>> At 2020-02-04T09:40:18+0100, Sijmen J. Mulder wrote: > >>>> markus schnalke wrote: > >>>>> Wikipedia writes that `ed' would be pronounced ``ee-dee'' (like > >>>>> ``vee-eye''), is that what you english speakers do? > >>> Certainly not. When one sees a command name that duplicates a > >>> frequently-used diminituve of a common name, the brain is going to > >>> select that preferentially. > >> ISTR thinking of it and calling it e-d, along with r-m, l-n, m-v and > >> the other two-letter commands. > >> > >>> (And did people really say "dee-eye-tee-roff" for "ditroff"?) > >> I did ... Although it's "groff" and not "g-roff". :-) > >> > >> FWIW, > >> > >> Arnold > > > > --0000000000003f7783059dd67ccf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
definitely a diminutive=C2=A0term.=C2=A0 =C2=A0

On= Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 11:11 AM Arthur Krewat <krewat@kilonet.net> wrote:
Bunch of guys at Computer Graphics Lab (at New= York Institute of
Technology) back in the 80's used to call it "f-suck".



On 2/5/2020 8:35 AM, Clem cole wrote:
> FWIW. When it was written, Ted and I used pronounced it as =E2=80=9Cfi= sk=E2=80=9D (rhymes with =E2=80=9Cdisk=E2=80=9D), but F. S. C. K. was alway= s acceptable to my ears.=C2=A0 I admit I smiled one time when I heard some = one call it =E2=80=9Cf-sick=E2=80=9D but that was not considered the proper= pronunciation.
>
> Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not = quite.
>
>> On Feb 5, 2020, at 3:45 AM, arnold@skeeve.com wrote:
>>
>> "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> wr= ote:
>>
>>> At 2020-02-04T09:40:18+0100, Sijmen J. Mulder wrote:
>>>> markus schnalke <meillo@marmaro.de> wrote:
>>>>> Wikipedia writes that `ed' would be pronounced ``e= e-dee'' (like
>>>>> ``vee-eye''), is that what you english speaker= s do?
>>> Certainly not.=C2=A0 When one sees a command name that duplica= tes a
>>> frequently-used diminituve of a common name, the brain is goin= g to
>>> select that preferentially.
>> ISTR thinking of it and calling it e-d, along with r-m, l-n, m-v a= nd
>> the other two-letter commands.
>>
>>> (And did people really say "dee-eye-tee-roff" for &q= uot;ditroff"?)
>> I did ... Although it's "groff" and not "g-roff= ". :-)
>>
>> FWIW,
>>
>> Arnold
>

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