From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 13150 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2020 01:16:40 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 28 Jul 2020 01:16:40 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4DCCD9CAA3; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:16:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400B49C8E4; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:15:07 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="nEkck7bL"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id BD0569C8E4; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:15:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f182.google.com (mail-qt1-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 289149C8E2 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:15:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f182.google.com with SMTP id c12so4754529qtn.9 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 18:15:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=CKEOH7ybCxW/Bq6+UFrNe7WcKh/b1jlRjHofCbNVhdE=; b=nEkck7bLIsPYL2QsnB7ooKkUX4PP7XrdadXFbdBz9yckx+ZuXzKqdZ4WIY0T1lL8oM wr4lPQPdisFu/WImAHlS09GEyZQoHL3oCzVSBepIYV5lB9D15wpAWCTb+/JeIjx3vkpu C34TBhVoY1UnH77sXazAT38ebLky0F3pisFQg= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=CKEOH7ybCxW/Bq6+UFrNe7WcKh/b1jlRjHofCbNVhdE=; b=HP1S/Cqr6h4ZxRiDXdz3qP8NJZJlEgix015h3A49R9W5EB84/AAwEVtyjjSXVwIL3C ATOUZevy/fq9hFyHvKhvCToXjbtDzLEg9h7ru7UETnX/cuCVUQhN7LPnJJVEPF8tF4Og Qvc+wEKPaw2IEjdtg418CFXXWPkNAtFs5XZdWB2GrhrFIboDxHOdJker6vuTCZjkbkLT +LWmtQiQU0VMi3PWfx0gAf8yhS05zIKC0Snj4LhaHVB3u/0CJ8HslkZkdy9s1JlbyG7Q 0k24YVOa+HzQ+GUerGy6uglq3eo68JumEDrUO4KtyxM5F9FbSaD00IrZYCQEj5iuN3Ql zyJw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530UmGuvA12t4VM099Q0hp6VnZ3t4Gd2v2QcM5yKTZMzKZ0xuc59 Eqcf0RaUtva771nprP7eRk8pZ8OJvPZ+6BikKB3KOA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwu9ca0yJc/+cCvNUPkT3/rZUzZrG8jWGlyESCaXgtDa+n3oYxMd5KwoJQAddSRqNpAopw0bIVX7If8o5nXB3I= X-Received: by 2002:aed:27d5:: with SMTP id m21mr25555702qtg.4.1595898903046; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 18:15:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:14:37 -0400 Message-ID: To: Will Senn Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000036c45705ab762bba" Subject: Re: [TUHS] v7 tar and 2bsd.tar X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --00000000000036c45705ab762bba Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Will, on your local system, take the tarball and pull off Joy's tar binary then move it over using dd and the trick with the disks. Joy's label told you to use his program. So try it. By on you mac: tar xvf 2bsd.tar tar src/tar <-- the later one because he gave you two ls -l tar <-- you may want a byte and block count dd if=tar of=ucbtar bs=1b conv=sync <-- pad to disk block size then on simh: att ucbtar to the rk05 and attach your tape 2bsd.tar like you did before on v7: dd if=/dev/rrkN of=ucbtar bs=1 <-- this should pull the binary with the padded last block in if you want to strip off the extra bytes, feel free but I don't think it's going to matter. chmod 755 ucbtar ./ucbtar vt0 <--- see it works If that fails, try the other tar he left you on the tape. My guess is that the tarball Warren has was written with a more modern tar and the old tar can not handle the tar threaded tape directory. This is possible as a lot was added to later versions tars and it's clear this is not exactly the tape image that Joy wrote/distributed. So, Ken's original version might just be unable to handle it. Hopefully, it is the contents, but it was not written with Joy's 'tarit' script and maybe not on a V7/2BSD system. Clem On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 8:41 PM Will Senn wrote: > I'm trying to get 2bsd.tar extracted into v7. Does anyone have any > recollection how to do this. Here's what I'm seeing: > > in simh: > simh> att tm0 -V -F TAR 2bsd.tar > Tape Image '2bsd.tar' scanned as TAR format. > contains 4935680 bytes of tape data (482 records, 1 tapemarks) > c > > and in v7: > tar xv0 > tar: bin/ - cannot create > directory checksum error > # ls > bin > > > What gives - it says it can't create the dir, but it does, it's there... > > Thanks, > > Will > > -- > GPG Fingerprint: 68F4 B3BD 1730 555A 4462 7D45 3EAA 5B6D A982 BAAF > > --00000000000036c45705ab762bba Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Will, on your local system, take the tarball and pull o= ff Joy's tar binary then move it over using dd and the trick with the d= isks. Joy's label told you to use his program.=C2=A0 So try it.=C2=A0 = =C2=A0By

on you mac:
tar xvf 2bsd.tar tar src/= tar=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<-- the later one because he gave you two
ls -l tar=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <-- you m= ay want a byte and block count
dd if=3Dtar of=3Ducbtar bs=3D1b conv= =3Dsync=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<-- pad to disk block size

then on simh:=C2=A0 att ucbtar to the rk05
and att= ach your tape 2bsd.tar like you did before

on v7:=C2= =A0 dd if=3D/dev/rrkN of=3Ducbtar bs=3D1=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = <-- this should pull the binary=C2=A0with the padded last block in
=

if you want to strip off the extra bytes, feel free but I d= on't think it's going to matter.

chmod 755 ucb= tar
./ucbtar=C2=A0vt0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<--- see it works
<= br>

If that fails, try the other tar he left you on th= e tape.

My guess is that the=C2=A0tarball Warren has w= as written with a more modern tar and the old tar can not handle the tar th= readed tape directory.=C2=A0 This=C2=A0is possible as a lot was added to la= ter versions tars and it's clear this is not exactly the tape image tha= t Joy wrote/distributed.=C2=A0 So, Ken's original version might just be= unable to handle it.=C2=A0 Hopefully, it is the contents, but it was not w= ritten with Joy's 'tarit' script and maybe not on a V7/2BSD sys= tem.

Clem

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 8:41 PM Will Se= nn <will.senn@g= mail.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
I'm trying to get 2bsd.= tar extracted into v7. Does anyone have any recollection how to do this. Here's what I'm seeing:

in simh:
simh> att=C2=A0 tm0 -V -= F TAR 2bsd.tar
Tape Image '2bsd.tar' scanned as TAR format.
contains 4935680 bytes of tape data (482 records, 1 tapemarks)
c

and in v7:
tar xv0
tar: bin/ - cannot create
directory checksum error
# ls
bin


What gives - it says it can't create the dir, but it does, it'= ;s there...

Thanks,

Will
 
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