From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 4141 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2021 13:06:19 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 Jul 2021 13:06:19 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B33B39C889; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 23:06:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CFB9C86C; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 23:05:18 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="ID1QeYbr"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9D13A9C864; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 23:05:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f177.google.com (mail-qk1-f177.google.com [209.85.222.177]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B3EE9C861 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 23:05:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f177.google.com with SMTP id q16so9243912qke.10 for ; Fri, 02 Jul 2021 06:05:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=gQ6y/L7IOuO1v4olX643sTmJzWFm3i8K93tfKj39HDw=; b=ID1QeYbr8HVcxPYr7cuE5ziyfN76tvKwv4+WKs/6h5j/2bGNETWM7t6Zu+CHejzQsq QjE/fSvI8aCzoWDAeiULRJKsN563GwIJTNFTm0/pvS+/b5Hyf6PpeOQBQKjrfLe2YUp/ H25PWueIlEnsRmGLW662qDy4dGR1Li8ZWI5lg= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=gQ6y/L7IOuO1v4olX643sTmJzWFm3i8K93tfKj39HDw=; b=PgKCXXBxGCpMDnNEnsCwIqsl1xDX7Qf9vAhQop50p0j4sDskvpBCC4PcCs+aIPKk5+ kB153KzdSV3IAS6J+F0V7yxmX4ET3HFRXKcbAiPDrDiu9HjuXaI1SJbvy3LYU7+Pa59v iOoXzDhtOAntKhH/+KzONluXu+3uWzKixv5h+DCeHEgbFNlZxhT858+sN4wg6wqm2GoV SHgY6EPbhRvXE2SvAsIVrs/vkOpqLmiz/dXHcJnIuoO0tLoKJDlSNAM/tHzn/SKwe0LP cVCrEocoySsImc4V0BCJDhx7TigsFk/CsQ8KLmezrCOOCrnJ69wC6TVIYc4wErwaGHb5 CUOw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532B5zd4vjEK42wQAytHIzXc8rgc/IkXQV8iyVAW7vHBRLKFZNy0 I9mflOFwMLiRkZoB2EwEeRJLofunEjAzZg4pUJ7bLw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwlk9IugHYu1mNuppqcr/UvXEfacmxqLg2W3IjBqWS+dULCXNrY8FmjI+kJyOI2is8n1JaxoRfhjrx+xr5AgpY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:69b:: with SMTP id f27mr5451374qkh.25.1625231113057; Fri, 02 Jul 2021 06:05:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202107021140.162BeWZt018129@freefriends.org> In-Reply-To: <202107021140.162BeWZt018129@freefriends.org> From: Clem Cole Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 09:04:47 -0400 Message-ID: To: Aharon Robbins Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002c065a05c6239b70" Subject: Re: [TUHS] First machine to run rogue? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000002c065a05c6239b70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 7:40 AM wrote: > Is the rogue source extant? > Yes -- but ... > > ISTR that rogue only came as a binary, there was no source. > That was true at first, certainly the original binary was passed around. It might have been an early net.noise pass around, but ISTR for Tektronix on V7 I got the binary from someone at UCB directly -- Mark Bales, maybe, who was a UCB doing a summer Internship and he may have brought them with him. The sources were later released as part of a CSRG release in the post 4.2 timeframe ??reno/tahoe I think??, but by then the binary for the Vax was pretty popular and the sources had begun to sneak out - as I know I had them at Masscomp and Sun had them too. Paul Cantrell (of video teco fame) created a color version of it and IIRC may have added some other graphics when running on a Masscomp tube. =E1=90=A7 --0000000000002c065a05c6239b70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 7:40 = AM <arnold@skeeve.com> wrote= :
Is the rogue s= ource extant?=C2=A0
Yes --= but ...=C2=A0

ISTR that rogue only came as a binary, there was no source.
That was true at first, certainly the ori= ginal binary was passed around.=C2=A0 It might=C2=A0have been an= early net.noise =C2=A0pass around, but ISTR for Tektronix on V7= I got the binary from someone at UCB directly -- Mark Bales, maybe, who wa= s a UCB doing a summer Internship and he may have brought them with him.

The sources were later released as part of a CSRG rele= ase in the post 4.2=C2=A0=C2=A0timeframe=C2=A0??re= no/tahoe I think??, but by then the binary for the Vax was prett= y popular and the sources had begun to sneak out - as I know I had them at = Masscomp and Sun had them too.=C2=A0 Paul Cantrell (of video teco fame) cre= ated a color version of it and IIRC may have added some other graphics when= running on a Masscomp tube.
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