From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 72afd92b for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 15:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A33C89D53F; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 01:53:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7809D518; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 01:53:03 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="OTw33390"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 40C469D518; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 01:53:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f181.google.com (mail-qk1-f181.google.com [209.85.222.181]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2F269CD7A for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 01:52:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f181.google.com with SMTP id p7so19933580qkh.10 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 07:52:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hx4iUEKG7LC53K2kMhc3EMp76S7QAAX9fDAGTqgq19g=; b=OTw33390laaT/7m2huEvtOQxbcrR3kAkSMXLulagwxcoMUK/FGwf3X2diEThTV02KM VEh4gKmJQNu8T8jkqmTm81Al+jh/Pyz0+7z+E1REplA7rkASTZMMpYhW9jUUW1NQwRuo 4R/xDd+Sgam1Vlw+d+YFXZbtzsvLUITMBbBSg= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hx4iUEKG7LC53K2kMhc3EMp76S7QAAX9fDAGTqgq19g=; b=ggBlV9D+keWNVaC0Ks4xj3lNd6k/69ENu6NUivqDW24VvqYOeu+RLGGfLPIC7lOvCj WSGBOJ9HMbtz5E8lTKCJxRO6AKQNPFkVb5KYRwLh5GhTG6S3cATtRAxkyqY+yt3cFG59 su0LrgOG4Sbu/W8mIUnvDJ9CkRpt0x2jXoZ2D83xxmcFYtQNgEEoAnSjgR8t+v7ADcW6 FJgNXSKdOSj2AM7ZRT0QgzBXN1CTrs5qwHWikgF8MnSFoyo7Rdm0e3e8DO1a+dSjvZRQ 1nST0y+ikpxlxtix2TqPyvxUa5qhALc18rQkT5Sq1s0GHDM5X266hMmTJu2xc+Ut6NrA lVYg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXSyu9YrTjr6vjlTXZWNwIxgNLyStJbaQmEGdY9T/vlKL8Iiu30 h89/ty/e5w6jqqsWK/JIOBoRKFiirl6ttmWnOAo/zOhY X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxbcATM7LL+F5dvO1orOWvSsIYZ+DnEXujuoem089bAGW3IPAK76ZtD7w/x50D+eJPDOq58goCNG0KR5bHGd1w= X-Received: by 2002:ae9:eb49:: with SMTP id b70mr20015445qkg.307.1582041178027; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 07:52:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202002171520.01HFKqKi026749@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <4d252035b323b7583c5760c952d1982c@firemail.de> <202002171839.01HId8FT1358073@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <202002180017.01I0HI0I1415945@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <202002181528.01IFSogM030831@freefriends.org> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 10:52:45 -0500 Message-ID: To: Steve Nickolas Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006fca12059edbaa62" Subject: Re: [TUHS] man Macro Package and pdfmark X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --0000000000006fca12059edbaa62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Yes and the term "open" was coined by the marketing folks in uniforum to describe the open interfaces and ability to see the sources (you might have pay a license fee). Or it was not free. Other people came later and missinterpreded the term. Clem On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 10:43 AM Steve Nickolas wrote: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2020, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: > > > I don't like your use of "open source"; it is way out of skew with > > how it's used today. > > Wasn't it always *intended* to mean the same thing as "Free Software" ? > > (I use the phrase "freedom-compliant software" to be unambiguous, but it's > a bit unwieldy.) > > -uso. > -- Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual --0000000000006fca12059edbaa62 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes and the term "open" was coined by the = marketing folks in uniforum to describe the open interfaces and ability to = see the sources (you might have pay a license fee). Or it was not free. =C2= =A0 =C2=A0


Other people came later and missinterpreded the term. = =C2=A0=C2=A0

Clem
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On= Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 10:43 AM Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2020, arnold@skeeve.com wrote:

> I don't like your use of "open source"; it is way out of= skew with
> how it's used today.

Wasn't it always *intended* to mean the same thing as "Free Softwa= re" ?

(I use the phrase "freedom-compliant software" to be unambiguous,= but it's
a bit unwieldy.)

-uso.
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Sent from a handheld expect more typos t= han usual
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