From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 14776b74 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id AA1A59B7EB; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 03:56:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8579D9B7E3; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 03:56:12 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="IxVI2Bce"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 089A69B7E3; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 03:56:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wr1-f42.google.com (mail-wr1-f42.google.com [209.85.221.42]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 474889B7DB for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2019 03:56:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wr1-f42.google.com with SMTP id c2so14032615wrm.8 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:56:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=nePkzAr6VJ9ICuzOjKbrE/Qvgd5qSsaUBa7eXcPQxII=; b=IxVI2Bce2hRVIPhIRAZ2bbP+BquQ+lg/4A4LaVKghuvc9lrjIuS3lWAP7Fj1UDltpd dIA+YXs7Pn1QbN76YePfFaMxGlCe/56UmcySKmoKQXYLT1XLXKt2TPWUEOkZtO0Xql1G MmeO7eYBr5E0Fs8MddKYNlEZIcMIgn1aBoZOQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nePkzAr6VJ9ICuzOjKbrE/Qvgd5qSsaUBa7eXcPQxII=; b=glYMcJx4ZHXbvM9W84fBUCmsF+GOp5OcJnUwgh97ILakvszo+g0e7a2EpKgz1enr+O Y5NdzUGRg3E4ZHMWQ+z055waMhlhvGG4QnAnLTkRfsJmLz7gJQ3zZY12qiQjHuYBFFVd 9IGx3aq1Emcc3LMNuOt00FA4r+5+3tMJD1EaDsGAAQkoa8s3bA5v8MA9WqmdvFK0TDTK rrkDfoeQUP8F5SOVoFRBtGon43goA/EHTUYbaVF/nY/MORAUn0MhUNOZu4ziam5yU9RN a2/62Axme1cgNLhlHOkv43N7wjy+CYMYABCK4i4lhMyI2MyoNwJV2bH7LZAokTtj06TH pxtQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXGSg2fYJ8h452JRhxfDLO7nAPUmpoMOl1O0k+cE2O1UseQNa+b imaKHVs18piW3VkJ1FnB73VFp93PeGEqSE/SvlbJHMhJ X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw8T5Ck+0u8NLa3iWUUoQIwXaThXesx7f5446CX3C13DQl0xst0EmfOn1m+6AjEXc4IRFvWtMkwh6Jz5noXDzk= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:4b4f:: with SMTP id w15mr7742214wrs.199.1560275768852; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:56:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190611170254.2DB4018C09A@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:55:42 -0400 Message-ID: To: Noel Chiappa Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f45967058b1002df" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Montgomery's emacs X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000f45967058b1002df Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reading Lar's emacs thread refilled the memory cache: s/Toolkit/ToolChest/ =E1=90=A7 On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:12 PM Clem Cole wrote: > I thought much of the exptools went into something whos name was like the > AT&T Unix Toolkit Library (that Summit maintained). It was subscription > oriented (you paid per tool, but had an unlimited license for it). This > was how Korn Shell for $2K and a few other things made it out of Bell - I > think that eventually, ditroff was moved there instead of being a separat= e > distribution. I've now forgotten many of the details - there was a > build/make replacement IIRC that was there also, many of the Jerq tools a= nd > games like GBACA and some others were in there. Thinking about it much o= f > the support for Jerq (68000) and Teletype version (BLIT/We32000) may have > been in the Toolkit library. > =E1=90=A7 > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:03 PM Noel Chiappa > wrote: > >> > From: Mary Ann Horton >> >> > Warren's emacs would have been part of the Bell Labs 'exptools' >> > (experimental tools) package ... it's possible that's what you hav= e. >> >> I don't think so; Warren had been a grad student in our group, and we go= t >> it >> on that basis. I'm pretty sure we didn't have termcap or any of that >> stuff. >> >> Noel >> > --000000000000f45967058b1002df Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:12 PM Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
I thought much of the exp= tools went into something whos name was like the AT&T Unix Toolkit Libr= ary (that Summit maintained).=C2=A0 =C2=A0It was subscription oriented (you= paid per tool, but had an unlimited license for it).=C2=A0 This was how Ko= rn Shell for $2K and a few other things made it out of Bell - I think that = eventually, ditroff was moved there instead of being a separate distributio= n. I've now forgotten many of the details - there was a build/make repl= acement IIRC that was there also, many of the Jerq tools and games like GBA= CA and some others were in there.=C2=A0 Thinking about it much of the suppo= rt for Jerq (68000) and Teletype version (BLIT/We32000) may have been in th= e Toolkit library.
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On Tue, Jun 11, 2019= at 1:03 PM Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > From: Mary Ann Hor= ton

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Warren's emacs would have been part of the Bell Labs= 'exptools'
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > (experimental tools) package ... it's possible that&= #39;s what you have.

I don't think so; Warren had been a grad student in our group, and we g= ot it
on that basis. I'm pretty sure we didn't have termcap or any of tha= t stuff.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Noel
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