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From: clemc@ccc.com (Clem Cole)
Subject: [TUHS] basic tools / Universal Unix
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 11:48:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC20D2Pid68hdEf3YBwj+TVwp-5jpvsA5mG7=mGiW0P9HqdVbQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8b1ce7d5-d626-b523-d134-60efd61a0386@kilonet.net>

Teco commands were described as being 'indistinguishable from line noise.'
  On 10/30/120 cps dial up lines, that was not always a good thing ;-)

One of my favorite stories of teco years ago, one of my friends was editing
a teco macro and had gotten up from his terminal for a minute, his wife
looked at the screen and asked him if his 2 year old has been attacking the
keyboard again.

Clem

BTW:   My friend and former co-worker, Paul Cantrell wrote an excellent
teco implemnentation for UNIX.   I believe if you go to his web site (
copters.com) and poke around its available for download.

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Arthur Krewat <krewat at kilonet.net> wrote:

> Ah, a later reply pointed out the minimalist thing. never mind ;)
>
>
>
> On 11/15/2017 11:13 AM, Arthur Krewat wrote:
>
> I still don't get what was so bad about TECO.
>
> *20t$$
> <20 lines of text>
> *fs<text to search for>$<text to replace it with>$$
> *0lt$$ ; type current line to review what you've changed.
>
> Very simple.
>
> *<fstextsearch$textreplace$>$$
>
> replace all occurrences of textsearch.
>
> Now, of course, searching for something like a regular expression was much
> harder.
>
> Q-registers, all sorts of cool stuff.
>
> But then, maybe I'm talking about a later version of TECO than you all. I
> think I was on version 22 on TOPS-10 6.03A
>
>
> On 11/14/2017 10:07 PM, Will Senn wrote:
>
> I wasn't going to say it earlier, but now that you've said something about
> it... I was thinking, thank god, ed isn't teco! :).
>
> On 11/14/17 8:37 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> It took me a while to realize that ed(1) is what TECO should have been....
> Too much TECO trauma scared me away for far too long.... But maybe it was
> all the TECO macros I wrote to make the BH100 terminal useful as an editor
> in full screen mode....
>
> Warner
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 7:16 PM, Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> wrote:
>
>> +1.  Anyone who gets this is someone I'd work with.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 08:10:41PM -0600, Will Senn wrote:
>> > On 11/14/17 7:25 PM, Nemo wrote:
>> > >On 31/10/2017, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote:
>> > >>A previous boss insisted that all his support staff learn ED, because
>> one
>> > >>day it might be the only editor available on a trashed box (you can't
>> > >>mount /usr etc).
>> > >ed man; man ed
>> > >
>> > >https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html (Sorry -- could not resist)
>> > >
>> > >N.
>> >
>> > For all that it's the butt of jokes, ed is awesome. I didn't really
>> > appreciate it until vi wasn't an easy goto option anymore (v6). After
>> > reading Kernighan's tutorial, I kind of fell in love with it. g/re/p?
>> Who'd
>> > of thunk it? ed may not be 'visual', but the entire document is
>> editable and
>> > its support of regex and the global command are incredibly powerful.
>> > Especially, for so incredibly tiny an editor. Finally, ed is the
>> sibling of
>> > sed and once I got the connection there, it opened up a whole new world
>> of
>> > editing awesomeness.
>> >
>> > Will
>> >
>> > --
>> > GPG Fingerprint: 68F4 B3BD 1730 555A 4462  7D45 3EAA 5B6D A982 BAAF
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> Larry McVoy                  lm at mcvoy.com
>> http://www.mcvoy.com/lm
>>
>
>
> --
> GPG Fingerprint: 68F4 B3BD 1730 555A 4462  7D45 3EAA 5B6D A982 BAAF
>
>
>
>
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Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-30 14:16 Noel Chiappa
2017-10-30 14:40 ` Clem Cole
2017-10-30 15:23 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-10-30 20:56 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-10-31 10:50   ` Ronald Natalie
2017-11-01  3:23     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-01 13:25       ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-11-16  1:17         ` Dario Niedermann
2017-11-15  1:25       ` Nemo
2017-11-15  2:10         ` Will Senn
2017-11-15  2:16           ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-15  2:37             ` Warner Losh
2017-11-15  3:07               ` Will Senn
2017-11-15 16:13                 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-15 16:23                   ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-15 16:48                     ` Clem Cole [this message]
2017-11-15 18:13                       ` Bakul Shah
2017-11-15 19:01                         ` Clem Cole
2017-11-15 19:52                           ` [TUHS] TECO was: " Arthur Krewat
2017-11-15 20:19                             ` Clem Cole
2017-11-15 20:25                               ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-15 22:18                                 ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-15 22:42                                   ` [TUHS] :nohlsearch in vim Chris Torek
2017-11-16  2:44                                     ` Don Hopkins
2017-11-16  4:34                                   ` [TUHS] TECO was: Re: basic tools / Universal Unix Dave Horsfall
2017-11-16  4:36                                     ` Jim Capp
2017-11-16  8:42                                     ` Pete Turnbull
2017-11-18 14:39                                       ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-16  9:19                                     ` arnold
2017-11-16 21:59                                     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-16 22:58                                       ` Andy Kosela
2017-11-17  2:17                                         ` Steve Johnson
2017-11-17  2:38                                           ` George Michaelson
2017-11-17  3:56                                             ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-11-17  4:07                                               ` Steve Nickolas
2017-11-17  8:44                                             ` Michael Kjörling
2017-11-17  3:50                                         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-11-17  6:51                                           ` Andy Kosela
2017-11-17  1:18                                     ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2017-11-16  0:29                                 ` Grant Taylor
2017-11-16  0:35                                   ` Grant Taylor
2017-11-16  0:52                                     ` Warner Losh
2017-11-16  9:29                             ` [TUHS] TECO was: " Mutiny 
2017-11-16 14:55                               ` Clem Cole
2017-11-16 21:26                                 ` Random832
2017-11-17  9:08                                   ` Mutiny 
2017-11-16 20:35                               ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-16 21:00                                 ` Clem Cole
2017-11-17  6:28                               ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-11-15  9:58               ` [TUHS] " Andy Kosela
2017-11-15 11:42           ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-01 14:05     ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-01 16:42       ` arnold
2017-11-01 17:17         ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-01 18:03           ` Dan Cross
2017-11-01 18:06           ` arnold
2017-11-01 20:16             ` Bakul Shah
2017-11-01 20:37               ` arnold
2017-11-01 21:04                 ` Bakul Shah
2017-11-02  0:05                 ` Chet Ramey
2017-11-02  0:10             ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-10-31 16:43   ` Don Hopkins
2017-11-02 17:48   ` Paul Winalski
2017-10-30 21:50 ` Charles Anthony
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-11-15 14:06 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-15 17:12 ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-11-15 17:47   ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-15 18:40   ` Bakul Shah
2017-11-15 19:58     ` Larry McVoy
2017-11-01 22:51 Norman Wilson
2017-11-01 23:09 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-11-02 20:29 ` Grant Taylor
2017-10-31 19:23 Norman Wilson
2017-10-30 21:40 Noel Chiappa
2017-10-18 23:03 Doug McIlroy
2017-10-19  3:53 ` Random832
2017-10-19 14:33   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-10-19 14:41     ` Random832
2017-10-19 21:03       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-10-20 19:54       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-10-19 14:32 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-10-16 17:52 Clem Cole
2017-10-16 18:54 ` Dan Cross
2017-10-17 13:51   ` Tony Finch
2017-10-17 20:22     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-10-16 20:05 ` Bakul Shah
2017-10-30  0:55   ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-10-30  2:54     ` Bakul Shah
2017-10-30 14:05       ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-10-16 20:39 ` Andy Kosela

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