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From: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
To: Arthur Krewat <krewat@kilonet.net>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] RetroNet…
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 16:58:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC20D2Pix3LgUJdst3xnHZXKsMC7J7AkamVVS4cyv13dnpD33g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0cfe9e5b-6a34-cea0-3639-4bdfea039cab@kilonet.net>

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On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 4:17 PM Arthur Krewat <krewat@kilonet.net> wrote:

> LOL - very true, Clem. That was a shameless bit of self-promotion. From
> what I can tell, SIMH does not support a DH11. Yet.
>
Note I have not tried this .... but from the simh mailing list:

  * The UNIBUS DH11 and DHU11 had 16 lines per interface
  * The QBUS DHV11 had 8 lines per interface
  * The QBUS CXY08 was DHU/DHV compatible and had 8 lines
  * The QBUS CXA16  "    "   "    "   "    "   "  16 lines

*Supposely, the DHV11 works ..... its been on my >>round tuit<< list for a
while to verify!!!!*



>
> But when is an emulated interrupt a bad thing? Except for the idle loop
> that may or may not be optimized, the rest is balls-to-the-wall CPU bound
> anyway. And these days, even emulated, we're orders of magnitude faster
> than the original hardware.
>
Yeah, but since the 780 was slow on interrupt processing, why stress it any
more thsan you have too.



>
>
> http://simh.trailing-edge.narkive.com/Sc9HBFZU/multiple-telnet-ports-in-simh-to-rsts-e-9-6
>
> I recognize a familiar name in there ;)
>
Yeah a couple of them ;-)




>
> But yeah, when a DZ11 was blazing away at 19200 baud (I hacked the TOPS-10
> 6.03A we had at LIRICS to support it), it made the system crawl.
>
No doubt.   CMU and MIT had front ends that put the serial lines on
dedicated PDP-11s in front of the 10's - so the Tops (or ITS) only saw
canonicalized I/O and it made a huge difference for those systems.  By the
time Vaxen, I don't think DEC had yet realized what a problem the DZ was.
 The DH's issue was cost (and space) since it was implemented in MSI TTL
and took up a full 'PDP-11 System Unit' on the bus.  The DZ11 gave you 8
serial ports in a single PDP-11 slot, which was a huge win.
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-29 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-29 17:25 Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 17:49 ` Andreas Hein
2018-08-29 18:05   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 18:26     ` William Pechter
2018-08-29 18:42       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
     [not found]         ` <a09e914b-ae45-4dfa-8964-826852b3252e.maildroid@localhost>
2018-08-29 18:49           ` [TUHS] Fwd: RetroNet… William Pechter
2018-08-29 18:56             ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 18:50         ` [TUHS] RetroNet… Clem Cole
2018-08-29 18:57           ` Arthur Krewat
2018-08-29 19:30             ` Clem Cole
2018-08-29 20:09               ` Arthur Krewat
2018-08-29 20:58                 ` Clem Cole [this message]
2018-08-30  0:13                   ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-29 18:50       ` Ron Young
2018-08-31  1:17       ` Cornelius Keck
2018-08-31  4:33         ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-31  1:20     ` Cornelius Keck
2018-08-31  3:07       ` Steve Nickolas
2018-08-31  4:40       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-31 23:25       ` Dave Horsfall
2018-09-01  6:52         ` Dave Horsfall
2018-09-01 16:16           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 18:04 ` Seth Morabito
2018-08-29 18:33   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 18:36     ` [TUHS] RetroNet??? Larry McVoy
2018-08-29 18:48       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 18:53       ` Dan Cross
2018-08-29 19:00         ` William Pechter
2018-08-29 19:35           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 19:43             ` William Pechter
2018-08-29 19:28         ` Arrigo Triulzi
2018-08-29 20:14           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-09-06  2:11             ` Ed Carp
2018-09-06  5:07               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-09-06 18:22               ` Clem Cole
2018-08-31  1:12         ` Cornelius Keck
2018-08-29 18:38     ` [TUHS] RetroNet… William Pechter
2018-08-29 18:54       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-29 20:21       ` Warren Toomey
2018-08-29 20:27         ` Arthur Krewat
2018-08-30  0:02           ` Dave Horsfall
2018-09-03  7:21         ` Ed Carp
2018-09-03 23:01           ` Dave Horsfall
2018-09-04  8:52             ` Derek Fawcus
2018-09-04 22:18               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-09-05  5:17             ` Ed Carp
2018-08-29 20:22       ` Warren Toomey
2018-08-31  1:15     ` Cornelius Keck
2018-08-31  1:37       ` [TUHS] RetroNet… Virtual is cheap William Pechter
2018-08-31 16:24         ` Cornelius Keck
2018-08-31 17:31           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-31 17:36           ` William Pechter
2018-09-01  0:40             ` Dave Horsfall
     [not found]           ` <0b739af0-da9e-6bdb-fe17-6f2dda837de5@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net>
     [not found]             ` <20180901222055.GA71355@server.rulingia.com>
2018-09-10  6:35               ` [TUHS] [COFF] " Dave Horsfall
2018-08-31  5:06       ` [TUHS] RetroNet… Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-31 16:24         ` Cornelius Keck
2018-08-30 17:54 ` Michael Kjörling
2018-08-30 18:11   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-30 18:15     ` [TUHS] RetroNet??? Larry McVoy
2018-08-30 18:15       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-30 23:42     ` [TUHS] RetroNet… Dave Horsfall
2018-08-31  4:13       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-31  1:09     ` Cornelius Keck
2018-08-31  4:17       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-09-02 22:45     ` Derek Fawcus
2018-09-02 23:29       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-09-03  1:11       ` jsteve
2018-09-03  7:02       ` Jeffrey H. Johnson
2018-09-03  8:24         ` jsteve
2018-09-03 16:42         ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-08-30 18:05 ` Donald ODona
2018-08-30 18:17   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS

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