From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 20640 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2023 00:37:43 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Feb 2023 00:37:43 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678D543134; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 10:37:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-xe2a.google.com (mail-vs1-xe2a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2a]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0D5F43133 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 10:37:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-xe2a.google.com with SMTP id n62so1217645vsc.8 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2023 16:37:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; t=1676853446; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=UG4EC9H5gIke5+4an3NJZDbQABQ4SL54bH+nTt06YMU=; b=rUzjyaprHlvKmyuNtPXO1cNzNvtVu79IEBURQZEoiH5icfCl2jAf+vsuenU3xC+K5/ B1SEFCY37KO4Qt5kRD9t/oPMZqj/n3PagLcJJnuzq4c5R9pDpYe9IlYpKuLF7/zAnuaf tNB32gdUD/5MeOgs4AlPAt/4P4hL5bzVF6l6w= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1676853446; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=UG4EC9H5gIke5+4an3NJZDbQABQ4SL54bH+nTt06YMU=; b=AFJ7QOusP16RqURgFvFhJjn2RLdoz/h+h43yn7F4dTQ0RtphhitkiobxYTsGTv1rvt O3ga0TPibGdgKaQte33mpPBU7GEyurKPPwu2udUI0DJ7ptM/3PHlpSelxbDU3pwq2HX5 vgL282mtgDnJHkst3wIHEhwELORMVY7xpKgUdzkOZv1n3UGd0vAEfUguoF3JeWWXbklI EUt1Fe/ptgmKZI8KPFoePusN8V9p0E/IyVHB0gUC8kZccOwlF5x1vCATOxTj5tK1ganb 9FhIUecyQQqHlfVX4hqyxAkYM36CvTRE1ql7GMs3P4fj+mMDJLXPe5HELmPnyZ0cEmHC ir7Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKX+YQ57mgtwAaNxJbzAo0wSeYH95Tct8VDhHzFSbRWAoWY0YNig /8QFj0tMwlKkhM8SabmQ5/y1WiCibKPr1kF2ufH7fh027ko5rVsQ X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set+uOS4Ll9eHpTQ8NC2IPp2/wmBRaK/cb6KAUMqsAf/d1SMuAeB7b4s5ok+2oiC5ipfQHn0Ud9mPZf0nfEBHkAk= X-Received: by 2002:a67:ecd9:0:b0:3f1:196c:5ca8 with SMTP id i25-20020a67ecd9000000b003f1196c5ca8mr252088vsp.56.1676853445657; Sun, 19 Feb 2023 16:37:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 19:36:59 -0500 Message-ID: To: KenUnix Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f81bbe05f516dd78" Message-ID-Hash: ZX3ZOYTYFNPURPC5BCGS34SEDLEYUASU X-Message-ID-Hash: ZX3ZOYTYFNPURPC5BCGS34SEDLEYUASU X-MailFrom: clemc@ccc.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: UNIX TUHS Group X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Unix V7 Questions booting and date/time List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000f81bbe05f516dd78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 7:01 PM KenUnix wrote: > Was an upgrade for ethernet TCP/IP for Unix V7 ever > done when running under SIMH? > Yes, the BSD 2.9/10/11 stream include the UCB Networking stack - it runs just fine on SIMH. In fact one Oscar's PiDP-11 [which used simh for the simulator] its one of the systems that is automatically loaded. > > Was an upgrade ever done for Unix V7 when running > under SIMH to read and set the date/time? > Where would you read the clock? SIMH emulates real HW - V7 was distributed for DEC HW through 1979 on the 11 and DEC had nothing. That said, could you create something sure - I bet you could. Maybe the easiest way would be to use a virtual DL/DC/DZ/DH serial port and have V7 read the clock from a 'serial line.' when it boots. Then set up a process on the SIMH Host system to source the data that V7 read. That said, you probably could rewrite what you are starting in your example to SIMH's expect/send command system to do something for you - but I'd have to think about it. FWIW: all those deposit commands should be unnecessary. Just make sure you have a proper boot block on the disk, as dmr tells you in the 'setting up Unix' document in /usr/doc and SIMH can boot from the controllers. =E1=90=A7 --000000000000f81bbe05f516dd78 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 7:01= PM KenUnix <ken.unix.guy@gmai= l.com> wrote:
Was an upgrade for ethernet TCP/IP for Unix V7 e= ver
done when running under SIMH?
Yes, the BSD 2.9/10/11 stream include the UCB Networking stack - it runs = just fine on SIMH. In fact one Oscar's PiDP-11 [which used simh for the= simulator] its one of the systems that is automatically loaded.
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Was an upgrade ever done for Unix= V7 when running
under SIMH to read and set the date/time?
Where would you read the clock? SIMH emulate= s=C2=A0real HW=C2=A0 - V7 was distributed for DEC HW through 1979 on the 11= and DEC had nothing.
That said, could you create something sure - = I bet you could.=C2=A0 Maybe the easiest way would be to use a virtual DL/D= C/DZ/DH serial port and have V7 read the clock from a 'serial line.'= ; when it boots.=C2=A0 Then set up a process on the SIMH Host system to sou= rce the data that V7 read.

That said, you probably cou= ld rewrite what you are starting in your example to SIMH's expect/send = command system to do something for you - but I'd have to think about it= .

FWIW: all those deposit commands should be unn= ecessary.=C2=A0 Just make sure you have a proper boot block on the disk, as= dmr tells=C2=A0you in the 'setting up Unix' document in /usr/doc a= nd SIMH can boot from the controllers.
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