From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 21072 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2024 21:38:57 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Jan 2024 21:38:57 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8AE43EBB; Sun, 7 Jan 2024 07:38:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vk1-xa30.google.com (mail-vk1-xa30.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a30]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22FCE43EB0 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2024 07:38:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vk1-xa30.google.com with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-4b739b29686so449972e0c.0 for ; Sat, 06 Jan 2024 13:38:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; t=1704577123; x=1705181923; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ZppppUijhDVF3vOx4Ttqy0i6+W7HkAkEeuLsniu5Cjs=; b=XWnVBPHBy28f8b7jFGptZTrEyZwW/8vrXaYic3gi3zKkqj8Io8t1xSPNZqhu431T3e f7CIz7+s9cHuZ6vObXrEfi8lSRYdm0/2paRz7mPoeX3LFsB24ufI3oeaiFglq9UlTcW0 KO7Y5QsyiyCWmKON2RuvzMegfDd8x+67JrStQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1704577123; x=1705181923; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=ZppppUijhDVF3vOx4Ttqy0i6+W7HkAkEeuLsniu5Cjs=; b=jletjyfSf1huyHh3M0qBrx2gdftcV9vwkzM0GqKFWJhpXAJf4N/RxzeKdn9L/b/yC4 UeqkkqpTz7waOWcbjFSKnmXJeCJ52SszNiDWXJhkb6WY0Bs0SwJrQFu01qHTLW9/4ypU pztaId3spX8Mo1icDSNmL231fKgKOApoiGP/nAvkdqgr0pADbjbZ7YISM+zQZQ5lcWk4 lmonDdO5AQRT0PNno/iuXdMThiZhd8rx+nMoeNXeHTiLjD27ScpZJu3Ow0xhhfYWKaYD iQ5clyAj3o4PXRJaII9QWtGO94RBdmxhyreHKAdII/fgm/YNnvJ+RN4NC98icHgR8zuc zf9A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwLO9dtiCk34mCnx0HdAhemIQsgJy9ezx47yeiEKCJchpaM8sOA q5+B7FASzgdVAUsiXGFM5DR58Gg+HJnXU0noQl4PcGz/3Qv3 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHh4Yeb00DQNwRRLBDAQz1fCWzzhxoym72NNtQSuZO4RJVfkjJbspvou83C4iA45V5fJI3e8pB1NIi+F363Bng= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6122:3c8e:b0:4b6:d49f:c218 with SMTP id fy14-20020a0561223c8e00b004b6d49fc218mr929853vkb.17.1704577123030; Sat, 06 Jan 2024 13:38:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20240105221729.371EA37401DA@freecalypso.org> <20240106030254.B8D7537401FF@freecalypso.org> <20240106032236.llpryldqt7lbondn@illithid> <20240106040642.D949B37403C1@freecalypso.org> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2024 16:38:06 -0500 Message-ID: To: Rich Salz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e93678060e4dc9fa" Message-ID-Hash: KZQLRA37XUYK34JTEX4IWRAK7V57DX2Q X-Message-ID-Hash: KZQLRA37XUYK34JTEX4IWRAK7V57DX2Q X-MailFrom: clemc@ccc.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Mychaela Falconia , tuhs@tuhs.org, aek@bitsavers.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Original print of V7 manual? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000e93678060e4dc9fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rich - thanks, that's the paper I referred to. Note date -- 6-Jan-80 - the work being done in the summer of '79. A number of us had been using ditroff as it had existed for a couple of years by that time, and as the abstract says - they got the Mergenthaler in the Summer of '79. What I did not remember was when the Mergenthaler work started. I did remember that it was after the APS-5 had been available for a while. Just for completeness, Judge Green mandated the breakup of the Bell System on January 8, 1982 -- Tool Chest *et al*. is set up later -- all part of the ability for AT&T to be in the commercial computer business. =E1=90=A7 =E1=90=A7 On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 4:05=E2=80=AFPM Rich Salz wrot= e: > Also https://www.cs.princeton.edu/~bwk/202/index.html has some papers > with Brian as co-author that talk about the history or the 202 and the > background work (troff->ditroff) involved. > > I am sure these have been posted here before. > --000000000000e93678060e4dc9fa Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rich - thanks, that's the paper I referred to. Note= date -- 6-Jan-80 - the work being done in the summer of '79.=C2=A0 A n= umber of us had been using ditroff as it had existed for a couple of years = by that time, and as the abstract says - they got the Mergenthaler in the S= ummer of '79.=C2=A0 What I did not remember was when the Mergenthaler w= ork started.=C2=A0 I did remember that it was after the APS-5 had been avai= lable for a while.

Just for completeness, Judge Green = mandated the breakup of the Bell System on January 8, 1982 -- Tool Chest et al.=C2=A0is set up later=C2=A0 --=C2=A0 all part of the ability for= AT&T to be in the commercial computer business.

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On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 4:= 05=E2=80=AFPM Rich Salz <rich.salz@gmail.com> wrote:
Also https://www= .cs.princeton.edu/~bwk/202/index.html has some papers with Brian as co-= author that talk about the history or the 202 and the background work (trof= f->ditroff) involved.

I am sure these have been= posted here before.
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