From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d2754bcf for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2019 13:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 60F8D9BAA7; Thu, 8 Aug 2019 23:44:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AB69BA17; Thu, 8 Aug 2019 23:43:46 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="bdbgC7RD"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 39D6F9BA17; Thu, 8 Aug 2019 23:43:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-wr1-f43.google.com (mail-wr1-f43.google.com [209.85.221.43]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F4129B42B for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2019 23:43:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-wr1-f43.google.com with SMTP id n9so95109354wru.0 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 06:43:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=rALXyk7mAzKwXZb3FelSTKAhn6HQqXXmvXfSJGmdbp4=; b=bdbgC7RDcz0JTvo0uPhdjodU7CZyEWccEzQqc3xx4xKD/1o3yDcOI3nJkAtCFWgNFZ zFwLxGFvIVgO2v2tEM5nPQwiMNYpKWlKozfk1GWsq8Qj9NVwn2avhT+R1nzMBgq9DyoZ MaJDLaHhujD79QfioNeONhkE7H2JtJ9xOF9eU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rALXyk7mAzKwXZb3FelSTKAhn6HQqXXmvXfSJGmdbp4=; b=Ua08NTl69FG7QOZ+S2jHS96M2iP3DRdxa0bIivVVRRBUENIkft9JPGKWztt7y0f47m 2VSUWEmOJYAGyJhGm0IIc3TPT5ro7Pvx5dQlp1YexZf05wFoIvERhWm3MdUBadnoSZcL tLk0+GNCfUHFQYWHErXMbuAPhjtkP18i6wa7JvSwyGkG+hTluzw8/svU/PoDA1oLhV0A XzP6RheUzvxwQH5w7JNFMZBWBYgd9QkKsmxlPX2DAmX76WAMsDxKDUOvj+dJTY7uabhv qxKPvPtZ1Tnc9t0REnc1+kSzEcOMRUAgeYvS0G5njzXeUBUV9sY1CQVWFVzym1Lpkv/P KeJA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUZo0xKl3KA/ikZ51e3P8h618jzq3sbmegCrcfXbGhmsmO8NNmk S+7XCSrUvL781yyqXtm2heJBQcrNvTyaah6r1tb4qDm7/jMgAA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqye8ayeCxfhuaaSy/sqGNMi6p8mtrk7EhbD+n4zeKszN1SJo5Pbk63KWXugcIgh/hfX51mi6wgqSyPHaqzeNNo= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:56cb:: with SMTP id m11mr16992006wrw.255.1565271821789; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 06:43:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7236c9d4-40af-bc49-8aee-5c32d869d2eb@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> In-Reply-To: From: Clem Cole Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 09:43:15 -0400 Message-ID: To: Warner Losh Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ea415e058f9b3e9e" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Pre-init initialization X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Unix Heritage Society , Grant Taylor Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --000000000000ea415e058f9b3e9e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 12:40 PM Warner Losh wrote: > This obviated the need to copy a filesystem to a new disk's swap space an= d > then use that to really install the system. > Thanks for the reminder. I don't remember if V7 on the PDP-11 used the swap space (but I don't think so). That said, I fairly sure that by BSD 4.1 the boot loader did, which I think is when that trick was first added to boot phase. Again, it was all about trying to get rid of the special /stand version of things. Funny, history would move on and we come back to that idea with busybox =F0=9F=A4=94 --000000000000ea415e058f9b3e9e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 12:40= PM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>= ; wrote:
This obviated the need to copy a filesystem to a new disk= 9;s swap space and then use that to really install the system.
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Thanks for the reminder.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I don= 9;t remember if V7 on the PDP-11 used the swap space (but I don't think= so). That said, I fairly sure that by BSD 4.1 the boot loader did, which I= think is when that trick was first added to boot phase.

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Again, it was all about trying to get rid of the special /stand version = of things.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Funny, history would move on and we come back to tha= t idea with busybox=C2=A0=F0=9F=A4=94
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