From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,PLING_QUERY, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 81fd65e7 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 22:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id EB6139BC28; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 08:39:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461FD9B8B2; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 08:39:06 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="HsGtQCDx"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 20EBD9B8B2; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 08:39:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f173.google.com (mail-qk1-f173.google.com [209.85.222.173]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DF7A9B844 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 08:39:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f173.google.com with SMTP id x4so8379326qkx.5 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 15:39:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tFfaQ3RY+vU57oSNVXGO4Cbd0+5b059UVj6T0okGCdk=; b=HsGtQCDxgK5wCqByO8J1Gk05uNOWTSJeEmsgC1VkHbJRJRDcbMU+7d0W6ZhCzIql5R Dx9Q0KNy53W1y7z884UM/1TcuQd2i3a08XOK26j9lblqcRLLBDIPpD/v0YD26xXy5I18 y6ZHRkvwOpERqZJVLLlmIJoKA1fGY1NUqkWEyZxPIqqw6onrdX1mrSjARP1+3BNmPAuX 6Ln9iNZ1BAYsBEY9APIYvzD4VKLLrJwksKDIrTNNxtb01ajpys+ByL54CPzIs58IW279 E7BSbQ3PU9yCxYc6fYRRb/N0sN/7w298ltaK9zYOk1HvNWeeSMMXNgJk5viNLDZjPGjE ugLQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tFfaQ3RY+vU57oSNVXGO4Cbd0+5b059UVj6T0okGCdk=; b=GdzkRakBEyOqeJKwhbW8dMjGx2MKgl2sFq0HZbbG4jBuZzC5Z4iAo7W+w52J1oMqx8 0gUYPfi8LJb05s5cHOxC8iDCnReYaaW4a1fee4ueOHJYRqXo7bFmXiLdDXoUx0h5uh1E Zf+oAAe/dQ+GjmbwLe71innhGaKc504CpLUTzEKJDiAyPs7rz1iXJ4RPv2BbbfNae+yz dxDb131KSCKXJwuElYIp8eC/QHY6ajrEvAwbrjV3HBHjKA1vL391WbLYwSHcooEifwJG wVGxFt7QyoojiW7xFGdykcFU3xkyB2sMD3beC+3ss0P/nHSQWnrQql2XkVFENeu5inOg Tl+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX/4JbKtGNSv1kFrAJOu3efrDuTBETq5YfzUmSNKy56NWWZlNsd Y81WQrZMgWzCOU/94hMAYj/+DzapNeTD/qRbzGMLTw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzC8hYRtiP6Ldr8bTn+XMGM6MKpPX9mf/NKuSOd2qu1escOuJbz9v4btQ0y2/5x1L7GxEE7s+2D6KxNxenRKn8= X-Received: by 2002:ae9:ec19:: with SMTP id h25mr22304678qkg.211.1570919940986; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 15:39:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191010205546.GA29154@minnie.tuhs.org> <7b7gk3rkhnthgh4gqstmg3gb@localhost> In-Reply-To: <7b7gk3rkhnthgh4gqstmg3gb@localhost> From: Gregg Levine Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 18:38:23 -0400 Message-ID: To: tuhs@tuhs.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [TUHS] What was your "Aha, Unix!" moment? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Hello! Actually Michael you're not alone in the problems regarding Trumpet Windsock. I spent an exhaustive summer several years ago trying to get it to work. And that was on my backup machine. I did get Win95 to install onto Win3.11 without a problem. It only seems hard. By time the string of events that I described above happened within the Linux world, well that's where I am now. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 3:34 PM Michael Kj=C3=B6rling = wrote: > > On 11 Oct 2019 06:55 +1000, from wkt@tuhs.org (Warren Toomey): > > What was your "ahah" moment when you > > first saw that Unix was special, especially compared to the systems you= 'd > > previously used? > > My Unix moment wasn't anywhere near as distinct as some other > peoples'. It was rather very much a gradual process. > > I got Internet access of my own as I recall some time in 1996. (I'd > got a modem only a year or so earlier.) I definitely had Internet > access and my own e-mail address in mid-1996. > > At that time, having had problems installing Windows 95 on top of > 3.1x, I believe I was still running Windows for Workgroups 3.11 on > MS-DOS. > > Before I figured out how to get Trumpet Winsock to talk to my ISP (it > probably would have gone more easily if not for the fact that due to > still young age at the time and English not being my native language I > was rather Englishtically challenged), that meant dial-up and log in > to my ISP's Unix systems, which I mainly used to send and receive > e-mail using Pine (which I _was_ able to figure out how to use). > > Looking back today at some of the e-mails from around that time, I'm > guessing that system ran Solaris; the message-IDs from the oldest > e-mails I still have clearly indicate "Pine.SOL.3.92" but a quick web > search for what SOL meant to Pine turned out to be rather unhelpful. > > Also somewhere around that same time, someone first introduced me to > Linux, but the two of us just weren't ready for each other at the > time. I dipped my toes twice before taking the plunge to using Linux > (then Red Hat 6.2) as my main desktop OS some time in mid-2000. Even > then it took a while to get used to, but on the whole, here I am > almost two decades later, not looking back... (though I do have to use > Windows at work.) > > -- > Michael Kj=C3=B6rling =E2=80=A2 https://michael.kjorling.se =E2=80=A2 mic= hael@kjorling.se > =E2=80=9CThe most dangerous thought that you can have as a creative per= son > is to think you know what you=E2=80=99re doing.=E2=80=9D (B= ret Victor) >