From: gregg.drwho8@gmail.com (Gregg Levine)
Subject: [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years?
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 23:15:34 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC5iaNG4uiKJWYzONL4kb4Qe7SK7sM5_21yWtGCxg_DfjaSbsg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170225141738.f3uauxhasru7gsb3@ancienthardware.org>
Hello!
We (well most of us) all of us know about AIX. Well what about AIX/370?
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Arno Griffioen <arno.griffioen at ieee.org> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Some of the stories on here reminded me of the fact that there's also likely
> a whole boat-load of UNIX ports/variants in the past that were never released
> to customers or outside certain companies.
>
> Not talking about UNIX versions that have become obsolete or which have
> vanished by now like IRIX or the original Apple A/UX (now *that* was an
> interesting oddball though..) and such, but the ones that either died or
> failed or got cancelled during the product development process or were never
> intended to be released to the outside ar all.
>
> Personally I came across one during some UNIX consultancy work at Commodore
> during the time that they were working on bringing out an SVR4 release for the
> Amiga (which they actually sold for some time)
>
> Side-note.. Interestingly enough according to my contacts at that time inside
> CBM it was based on the much cheaper to license 3B2 SVR4 codebase and not the
> M68k codebase which explained some of the oddities and lack of M68k ABI
> compliance of the Amiga SVR4 release..
>
> However..
>
> It turned out that they had been running an SVRIII port on much older Amiga
> 2000's with 68020 cards for some of their internal corporate networking and
> email, UUCP, etc. and was called 'AMIX' internally. But as far as I know it
> was never released to the public or external customers.
>
> It was a fairly 'plain jane' SVRIII port with little specific 'Amiga' hardware
> bits supported but otherwise quite complete and pretty stable.
>
> Worked quite well in the 4MB DRAM available on these cards. The later SVR4
> didn't fare so well.. Paged itself to death unless you had 8 or even (gasp!)
> 16MB.
>
> It was known 'outside' that something like this existed as the boot ROM's on
> the 68020 card had an 'AMIX' option but outside CBM few people really knew
> much about it.
>
> It may have been used at the University of Lowell as they developed a TI34010
> based card that may already have had some support in this release.
>
> Still..
>
> This does make me wonder.. Does anyone else know of these kinds of special
> 'snowflake' UNIX versions that never got out at various companies/insitutes?
> (and can talk about it without violating a whole stack of NDA's ;) )
>
> No special reason.. Just idle curiosity :)
>
> Likely all these are gone forever anyway as prototypes and small run production
> devices and related software tends to get destroyed when companies go bust or
> get aquired.
>
> Bye, Arno.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-01 4:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-25 14:17 Arno Griffioen
2017-02-25 14:32 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-25 16:35 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-25 18:11 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-25 18:16 ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 17:31 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-25 17:34 ` Charles Anthony
2017-02-25 17:36 ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 18:28 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-27 5:08 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-25 17:40 ` Nemo
2017-02-25 17:43 ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 23:23 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-26 12:39 ` Noel Chiappa
2017-02-26 12:46 ` [TUHS] The size of EMACS, and what hides in kLOCs Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 16:05 ` Nemo
2017-02-26 17:05 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 18:23 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 19:19 ` Jim Carpenter
2017-02-26 19:39 ` [TUHS] EMACS movemail suid root bug Michael Kjörling
[not found] ` <CALMnNGg3dRV0yPV1GgeqaOFG0Mb5PSNuqgPs8pLKOHYzurYEOg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-02-27 1:00 ` [TUHS] The size of EMACS, and what hides in kLOCs Nemo
2017-02-27 1:48 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-27 8:26 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-27 1:19 ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-27 2:13 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-26 13:32 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 14:19 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 14:54 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 15:25 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2017-02-26 15:55 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 15:37 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 15:52 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 16:06 ` tfb
2017-02-26 16:27 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 18:32 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-02-27 16:04 ` Tony Finch
2017-02-27 23:51 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-26 16:22 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 16:36 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 18:01 ` William Pechter
2017-02-26 18:40 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-02-26 16:06 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 16:30 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:15 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:20 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 17:23 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:33 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-26 17:39 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 17:39 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 19:33 ` [TUHS] roff Larry McVoy
2017-02-26 19:34 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 19:36 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 19:46 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-26 19:41 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 21:27 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 21:28 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-27 13:59 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-02-28 20:15 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Dave Horsfall
2017-02-28 20:22 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-03-01 1:31 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-28 20:40 ` Jaap Akkerhuis
2017-03-01 12:45 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-25 14:44 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during theyears? jsteve
2017-02-25 19:02 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Al Kossow
2017-02-26 4:06 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-01 4:15 ` Gregg Levine [this message]
2017-03-01 7:17 ` arnold
2017-03-01 7:45 ` Ronald Natalie
2017-03-01 11:14 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports duringthe years? jsteve
2017-03-01 14:54 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Dan Cross
2017-03-01 15:41 ` Nemo
2017-03-01 18:17 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-02 2:13 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-02 2:27 ` Gregg Levine
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