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From: gregg.drwho8@gmail.com (Gregg Levine)
Subject: [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years?
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 23:15:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC5iaNG4uiKJWYzONL4kb4Qe7SK7sM5_21yWtGCxg_DfjaSbsg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170225141738.f3uauxhasru7gsb3@ancienthardware.org>

Hello!
We (well most of us) all of us know about AIX. Well what about AIX/370?
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Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."


On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Arno Griffioen <arno.griffioen at ieee.org> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Some of the stories on here reminded me of the fact that there's also likely
> a whole boat-load of UNIX ports/variants in the past that were never released
> to customers or outside certain companies.
>
> Not talking about UNIX versions that have become obsolete or which have
> vanished by now like IRIX or the original Apple A/UX (now *that* was an
> interesting oddball though..) and such, but the ones that either died or
> failed or got cancelled during the product development process or were never
> intended to be released to the outside ar all.
>
> Personally I came across one during some UNIX consultancy work at Commodore
> during the time that they were working on bringing out an SVR4 release for the
> Amiga (which they actually sold for some time)
>
> Side-note.. Interestingly enough according to my contacts at that time inside
> CBM it was based on the much cheaper to license 3B2 SVR4 codebase and not the
> M68k codebase which explained some of the oddities and lack of M68k ABI
> compliance of the Amiga SVR4 release..
>
> However..
>
> It turned out that they had been running an SVRIII port on much older Amiga
> 2000's with 68020 cards for some of their internal corporate networking and
> email, UUCP, etc. and was called 'AMIX' internally. But as far as I know it
> was never released to the public or external customers.
>
> It was a fairly 'plain jane' SVRIII port with little specific 'Amiga' hardware
> bits supported but otherwise quite complete and pretty stable.
>
> Worked quite well in the 4MB DRAM available on these cards. The later SVR4
> didn't fare so well.. Paged itself to death unless you had 8 or even (gasp!)
> 16MB.
>
> It was known 'outside' that something like this existed as the boot ROM's on
> the 68020 card had an 'AMIX' option but outside CBM few people really knew
> much about it.
>
> It may have been used at the University of Lowell as they developed a TI34010
> based card that may already have had some support in this release.
>
> Still..
>
> This does make me wonder.. Does anyone else know of these kinds of special
> 'snowflake' UNIX versions that never got out at various companies/insitutes?
> (and can talk about it without violating a whole stack of NDA's ;) )
>
> No special reason.. Just idle curiosity :)
>
> Likely all these are gone forever anyway as prototypes and small run production
> devices and related software tends to get destroyed when companies go bust or
> get aquired.
>
>                                                         Bye, Arno.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-03-01  4:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-25 14:17 Arno Griffioen
2017-02-25 14:32 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-25 16:35   ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-25 18:11     ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-25 18:16       ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 17:31   ` Clem Cole
2017-02-25 17:34     ` Charles Anthony
2017-02-25 17:36     ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 18:28     ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-27  5:08       ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-25 17:40   ` Nemo
2017-02-25 17:43     ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 23:23   ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-26 12:39     ` Noel Chiappa
2017-02-26 12:46       ` [TUHS] The size of EMACS, and what hides in kLOCs Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 16:05         ` Nemo
2017-02-26 17:05           ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 18:23             ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 19:19               ` Jim Carpenter
2017-02-26 19:39                 ` [TUHS] EMACS movemail suid root bug Michael Kjörling
     [not found]           ` <CALMnNGg3dRV0yPV1GgeqaOFG0Mb5PSNuqgPs8pLKOHYzurYEOg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-02-27  1:00             ` [TUHS] The size of EMACS, and what hides in kLOCs Nemo
2017-02-27  1:48               ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-27  8:26                 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-27  1:19           ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-27  2:13             ` Nick Downing
2017-02-26 13:32       ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 14:19         ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 14:54           ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 15:25             ` Angelo Papenhoff
2017-02-26 15:55               ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 15:37             ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 15:52               ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 16:06                 ` tfb
2017-02-26 16:27                   ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 18:32                     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-02-27 16:04                       ` Tony Finch
2017-02-27 23:51                         ` Nick Downing
2017-02-26 16:22                 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 16:36                   ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 18:01                     ` William Pechter
2017-02-26 18:40               ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-02-26 16:06           ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 16:30             ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:15           ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:20             ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 17:23               ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:33               ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-26 17:39                 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 17:39                 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 19:33                   ` [TUHS] roff Larry McVoy
2017-02-26 19:34                     ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 19:36                       ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 19:46                         ` Dan Cross
2017-02-26 19:41                     ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 21:27                       ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 21:28                         ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-27 13:59                         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-02-28 20:15       ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Dave Horsfall
2017-02-28 20:22         ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-03-01  1:31           ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-28 20:40         ` Jaap Akkerhuis
2017-03-01 12:45           ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-25 14:44 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during theyears? jsteve
2017-02-25 19:02 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Al Kossow
2017-02-26  4:06   ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-01  4:15 ` Gregg Levine [this message]
2017-03-01  7:17   ` arnold
2017-03-01  7:45   ` Ronald Natalie
2017-03-01 11:14     ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports duringthe years? jsteve
2017-03-01 14:54     ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Dan Cross
2017-03-01 15:41     ` Nemo
2017-03-01 18:17     ` Clem Cole
2017-03-02  2:13       ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-02  2:27       ` Gregg Levine

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