From: nw@retrocomputingtasmania.com (Nigel Williams)
Subject: [TUHS] First CRT terminal on Unix?
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 06:40:22 +1100 [thread overview]
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On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 4:55 AM, Henry Bent <henry.r.bent at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 22 November 2017 at 11:42, Ben Greenfield via TUHS <tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org>
> wrote:
>> > On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:33 AM, Random832 <random832 at fastmail.com> wrote:
>> > As far as I know (and I've gone looking for this specifically, oddly
>> > enough, out of idle curiosity), no version of termcap/terminfo has
>> > contained a description for the VT05.
The VT05 needed a delay added on CR as it was slow to scroll the
screen buffer, so every logon would have required: stty cr3
I amused to see that stty cr3 still works on Linux but on my desktop
there is no visible effect on scrolling speed.
>> For those who are reading about this as history and didn’t live it this
>> experience this statement needs more background.
>>
>> I will look up the VT05, but hope that you may add some to color as to
>> this stands out.
I suspect the VT05 was not popular as it was slow, uppercase only, 72
characters x 20 lines, and not cursor addressable (much like Teletypes
of that time). I also think the VT05 never sold in significant
numbers, certainly to this day there are only a small number in the
hands of collectors (despite being much sought after).
> There is a pretty good overview of the VT05 at
> https://vt100.net/dec/vt05.html and
This caught my eye: "It is completely portable, weighing only 55
pounds...". The VT05 is a beast, it is so deep (Depth 76cm / 30
inches) and heavy, although one person could lift it, the size and
shape really make it a two person lift.
In searching for images on the Internet I'm not finding as many images
of DEC PDP-11 installations from the 1970s as I hoped, mostly the
usual DEC marketing photos. This suggests a todo item is to compile
photos of early Unix installations sequenced in time.
At my local university I recall the early CRT terminals connected to
Unix systems were: GTC GT-101, ADM 3a, VT100 [1] and Tek 40xx. The
first CRT as output displays (these arrived before the terminals) were
Matrox graphics card connected monitors.
[1] The DEC VT100 was rare as it was expensive at the time and the
usual reason anyone had one was it shipped as the console bundled with
a PDP-11.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-22 19:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-22 10:43 Nigel Williams
2017-11-22 12:22 ` Robert Diamond
2017-11-22 13:26 ` Clem Cole
2017-11-22 13:28 ` Clem Cole
2017-11-22 14:18 ` Ron Natalie
2017-11-22 16:33 ` Random832
2017-11-22 16:42 ` Ben Greenfield
2017-11-22 17:15 ` Random832
2017-11-22 17:55 ` Henry Bent
2017-11-22 19:39 ` Random832
2017-11-22 19:40 ` Nigel Williams [this message]
2017-11-22 19:48 ` Nigel Williams
2017-11-22 21:33 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2017-11-22 21:54 ` Clem Cole
2017-11-23 19:33 ` Ron Natalie
2017-11-23 19:49 ` Jon Steinhart
2017-11-24 1:42 ` Ron Natalie
2017-11-22 22:14 ` Random832
2017-11-22 20:07 ` Clem Cole
2017-11-22 21:50 ` Dave Horsfall
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